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To: Mr Rogers
But as Ha Ha Thats Very Logical has pointed out, “I don’t think every reference to “the law of nations” is necessarily a reference to the book “The Law of Nations.”

And I told him or someone on this thread that de Vattel who wrote the the Law of Nations was the authority and history on the subject when the US Constitution was adopted. His works where well read by members of the Congresses. It doesn't take a Constitutional scholar to figure it out that de Vattel had a big influence of our Founding fathers.

And BTW, the "Law of Nations" are capitalized in Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution.

871 posted on 10/17/2010 8:34:19 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
And BTW, the "Law of Nations" are capitalized in Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution.

If you read the Constitution, you'll notice many nouns are capitalized. In the same section, the words, 'Piracies,' 'Felonies,' 'Seas,' 'and Offenses' are also capitalized.

You're point is meaningless.

873 posted on 10/17/2010 8:40:25 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Red Steel

You wrote (797), “We do see however that the Law of Nations is referenced in Article 1, Section 8.

“To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;”

The idea that the Constitution is referring to Vattel’s “Law of Nations” is laughable. It takes a remarkable person to repeat such folly.

The Law of Nations in the Constitution refers to “jus gentium”, as I pointed out earlier.

“In the debate on the floor of the Convention, the discussion turned on the question as to whether the terms, ‘’felonies’’ and the ‘’law of nations,’’ were sufficiently precise to be generally understood. The view that these terms were often so vague and indefinite as to require definition eventually prevailed and Congress was authorized to define as well as punish piracies, felonies, and offenses against the law of nations.”

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article01/40.html


876 posted on 10/17/2010 8:48:41 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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