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To: Red Steel

You wrote (797), “We do see however that the Law of Nations is referenced in Article 1, Section 8.

“To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;”

The idea that the Constitution is referring to Vattel’s “Law of Nations” is laughable. It takes a remarkable person to repeat such folly.

The Law of Nations in the Constitution refers to “jus gentium”, as I pointed out earlier.

“In the debate on the floor of the Convention, the discussion turned on the question as to whether the terms, ‘’felonies’’ and the ‘’law of nations,’’ were sufficiently precise to be generally understood. The view that these terms were often so vague and indefinite as to require definition eventually prevailed and Congress was authorized to define as well as punish piracies, felonies, and offenses against the law of nations.”

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article01/40.html


876 posted on 10/17/2010 8:48:41 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Kleon

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878 posted on 10/17/2010 8:49:53 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Mr Rogers
The idea that the Constitution is referring to Vattel’s “Law of Nations” is laughable. It takes a remarkable person to repeat such folly.

You ignore the main point being that De Vattel had a huge influence on our Founding Fathers of a new nation that went its own way breaking away from the King of England and his laws.

Benjamin Franklin testifies to this fact in his Memoirs that I stated:




887 posted on 10/17/2010 9:09:53 PM PDT by Red Steel
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