“These are NOT my words, these are Kent’s words, the Law of Nations is essential to national character aka nationality aka citizenship. Or as Kent put it here as well as is wriiten in the Ceclaration of Independence, the happiness of mankind.”
Ummm...one problem with discussing things with birthers is that they are used to reading sentence fragments, or sometimes stretch themselves to read an entire sentence. But as Ha Ha Thats Very Logical has pointed out, “I don’t think every reference to “the law of nations” is necessarily a reference to the book “The Law of Nations.”
When Kent wrote, “Congress claimed cognizance of all matters arising upon the law of nations...”, he didn’t capitalize “The Law of Nations”, nor did he cite the author, so he is not referring to a book written by Vattel.
From the Encyclopedia Britannica, “jus gentium, (Latin: “law of nations”), in legal theory, that law which natural reason establishes for all men, as distinguished from jus civile, or the civil law peculiar to one state or people. Roman lawyers and magistrates originally devised jus gentium as a system of equity applying to cases between foreigners and Roman citizens. The concept originated in the Romans’ assumption that any rule of law common to all nations must be fundamentally valid and just.”
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/308654/jus-gentium
Also see:
http://www.constitution.org/cmt/law_of_nations.htm
Vattel wrote a book about the law of nations (jus gentium), but he did not originate the concept nor copyright the term.
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And I told him or someone on this thread that de Vattel who wrote the the Law of Nations was the authority and history on the subject when the US Constitution was adopted. His works where well read by members of the Congresses. It doesn't take a Constitutional scholar to figure it out that de Vattel had a big influence of our Founding fathers.
And BTW, the "Law of Nations" are capitalized in Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution.
FYI..who were the original Roman citizens?
“Athens citizenship belonged to only people with 2 citizen parents”
“Fathers & Sons in Athens” is quite the read on ancient Roman civilization & the definition of citizen. Aristotle, while very well versed on ancient law & government & an inhabitant of ancient Rome & Athens, was not a citizen because his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth and according to historical archives, he never sought it, but he certainly respected it. Too bad you Ms Rogers can't say the same thing for our founding laws which were very clear, even before the British conquest of the original Dutch & Swedish colonies in the mid 1600's. Ms Rogers wants us to believe that those once free citizens fought a bloddy war to keep & confer subjectship from birth to every breathing soul born on American soil. Atleast we know different.
A Bill Declaring Who Shall Be Deemed Citizens of This Commonwealth
May 1779
...and all infants wheresoever born, whose father, if living, or otherwise, whose mother was, a citizen at the time of their birth...all others not being citizens of any the United States of America, shall be deemed aliens.