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To: Non-Sequitur; STARWISE
>>The fact that that the order naturally went down thru the chain of command doesn’t change the source .. or does it, in your mind?

Nope. Lakin is not charged with disobeying Obama's orders but the orders of his brigade commander and two other superior officers. The orders were for him to report to the office of his brigade commander and for duty in North Carolina, not Afghanistan. If Obama was unmasked and removed tomorrow that would not change the charges Lakin is facing in the slightest.

STARWISE, I got this one!

MILITARY AUTHORITY

As a noncommissioned officer, you must know what authority you have and where it comes from. You are also expected to use good judgment when exercising your authority.

Authority is defined as the right to direct soldiers to do certain things. Authority is the legitimate power of leaders to direct soldiers or to take action within the scope of their position. Military authority begins with the Constitution, which divides it between Congress and the President. The President, as commander in chief, commands the armed forces, including the Army. The authority from the Commander-in-Chief extends through the chain of command, with the assistance of the NCO support channel, to the squad, section or team leader who then directs and supervises the actions of individual soldiers. When you say, “PFC Lee, you and PFC Johnson start filling sandbags; SPC Garcia and SPC Smith will provide security from that hill,” you are turning into action the orders of the entire chain of command.

Check and mate.

385 posted on 10/14/2010 8:28:26 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Thank you!


387 posted on 10/14/2010 8:33:00 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: OneWingedShark

Check and mate is right.

Judge Lind knows the orders originate with the CINC and go down the chain of command. She is, after all, obeying the orders of the alleged CINC in everything she does. She knows where the orders come from and she knows what will happen to her if she disobeys.

That’s why she’s ignoring and refusing to take judicial notice of what everybody knows because they’ve been trained in it, just like that Army Study Guide you quoted shows.

That’s why she’s making her own admitted inferences about what constitutes a lawful order (i.e. if it is required to be obeyed we may infer that it is lawful) rather than actually citing the elements of Article 92, which say something totally different and are supposed to be legally binding. There’s no need for inferences when the language is clear.


407 posted on 10/14/2010 10:22:25 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: OneWingedShark
When you say, “PFC Lee, you and PFC Johnson start filling sandbags; SPC Garcia and SPC Smith will provide security from that hill,” you are turning into action the orders of the entire chain of command.

So would PFC Lee and PFC Johnson be in the right if they said, "Sir, I refuse to fill sandbags because I believe Obama is not qualified to be president" and would you support them if they did so?

And if the answer is 'yes' then is it your position that every order given by every officer and NCO in every branch of the military since noon on January 20,2001 has been illegal?

Check and mate.

Oh we're just warming up.

425 posted on 10/15/2010 4:17:54 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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