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LTC Lakin's Appeal Denied
U.S. Army Court of Criminal Appeals ^ | 10/12/10 | Clerk of the Court

Posted on 10/13/2010 3:04:13 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

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To: BuckeyeTexan

He didn’t look extremely happy in any of the few photos I’ve seen. Quite the contrary.


1,701 posted on 10/22/2010 5:53:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: STARWISE

Motives count, not just the deed.


1,702 posted on 10/22/2010 5:59:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: DJ MacWoW
We have yet to ascertain if Obama was ever a US citizen.

Bingo.

1,703 posted on 10/22/2010 6:01:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yeah. I’m gonna believe “you can’t get a long form BC” Fukino.


Who cares what you believe?
What matters is whether judges and justices all the way to the nine who sit on the Supreme Court believe her or not. And also it’s whether members of Congress believe her or not. It would take 67 Senators to not believe her to remove Obama via an impeachment trial.


1,704 posted on 10/22/2010 6:36:47 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: edge919

Which legislative, judicial or administrative body specifically denied a petition on the basis of this part of the statute or provided a counter-interpretation?? An appeal to obliviousness or inaction doesn’t exactly address the point in question.


Has the Department of Health released a copy of Obama’s original long form under a UIPA request? If not, then its fairly obvious which administrative body has specifically denied a petition on the basis of that part of the statute.
The Hawai’i Department of Health is an administrative body. Since their judgement has not been successfully challenged in a judicial or legislative body, that is where the issue sits.


1,705 posted on 10/22/2010 6:43:49 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Danae; All

I have a question about Danae’s documents that anyone is welcome to weigh in on. In addition to the long form she just got, she also posted photos of her Certification of Live Birth. To my eyes, it looks identical to the thing Obama posted. I assume Danae’s is valid*, so I’d like to know what significant difference anyone sees between hers and his. And if hers is valid and his looks just like it, why isn’t it good enough?

* I do note that Danae’s doesn’t list Island of Birth, which Obama’s does. I’m sure if his were missing that information, it would be cited as proof positive that it was bogus. Nevertheless, I want to make it clear that I’m not challenging the authenticity of Danae’s COLB at all.


1,706 posted on 10/22/2010 6:50:20 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: jamese777; Danae; El Sordo
Who cares what you believe?

You do or you wouldn't be posting to me.

And since Danae got her long form from Hawaii, that cat's "outtta da bag" baby. Liars. They ALL lied.

1,707 posted on 10/22/2010 6:59:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

I will tell you what I know about that...

I don’t know why it is missing. However, given that it does list the City, Honolulu, it is plainly obvious which Island that is on. El Sordo can testify to the fact there is a raised seal on the thing, and it was legitimately obtained by me from HDOH. I have in the past posted pic’s of the receipt generated by my purchase of the COLB in 2007. I gave El Sordo those receipts to take a look at as well.

I do not know why the island of birth is left off that COLB. I can only guess that each COLB is generated by someone typing the information into a form. If that is the case, they may have left that off. For what reason I don’t know, but I can speculate it is because it is just so plainly obvious to anyone living in Hawaii that Honolulu is on Oahu. There is no other Honolulu in the islands.

I wish I had a better answer than that. Sorry.


1,708 posted on 10/22/2010 7:01:23 PM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

I forgot to mention, on mine, the seal is visible. It also shows up in scans. I don’t believe the full document scan of Obama’s has that.


1,709 posted on 10/22/2010 7:03:24 PM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You do or you wouldn’t be posting to me.

And since Danae got her long form from Hawaii, that cat’s “outtta da bag” baby. Liars. They ALL lied.


So you care about every single person that you respond to? That’s bizarre and a little bit creepy.

Danae got an uncertified copy of her long form. If Obama got the same thing, you wouldn’t accept it as authentic.
ANY document produced BY Barack Obama is going to be questioned as to its authenticity just like his COLB is questioned.
The way to see Obama’s original birth certificate is under subpoena with him having absolutely nothing to do with its release.


1,710 posted on 10/22/2010 7:04:53 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: danamco

Thanks man! That one is a dot connector for sure. It got posted here quite a while back. Whats weird is that it pretty much said a lot of the same stuff I had guessed at.

It is well worth keeping alive for sure! Did you do a page scrape?? LOL


1,711 posted on 10/22/2010 7:06:48 PM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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To: jamese777; Mr Rogers; Danae
So you care about every single person that you respond to? That’s bizarre and a little bit creepy.

I never addressed you. YOU addressed my post to Mr Rogers. So it was YOU that cared what I was saying and not the other way around. Nice try though.

Danae got an uncertified copy of her long form. If Obama got the same thing, you wouldn’t accept it as authentic.

The point is that the story has been that a long form BC is not available. That they do not issue them anymore. Danae got hers. That makes them proven liars. Who but a fool would believe proven liars.

1,712 posted on 10/22/2010 7:11:44 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: jamese777
Would you trust a birth certificate released by the state of Hawaii’i at the specific request of and under the PRESIDENTIAL authority of Barack Hussein Obama II to be authentic and unaltered?

YES!

That is IF controlling authorities would attest to it's authenticity... why not?

By the way... don't even TRY to say that the online IMAGE Obama's administration posted on the Internet, was EVER verified as to it's authenticity by the State of Hawaii or ANY other Government agency.

That lie has been debunked... and you know it!

I once PM'd you that I believed you were an honest critic and NOT a Troll -- as everybody claims.

At this point I am leaning toward you being a paid troll.

If you post the aforementioned lie -- or ANY of your other regurgitated crap -- I will consider you a troll.

I once tried to have an edifying discussion with you, but it is apparent that you are not up to the task.

If you want to have a real open discussion, fine.

If you insist on regurgitating material that has been debunked over and over adnasium...?

Now, at this point in time (after two years)I really don't care if the incompetent puppet in the white House "reveals"(in some manner) his "long form," or not.

Frankly, I have serious doubts that he even has one.

Lets say he does post his long form -- although I doubt that will ever happen.

Wouldn't the public ask themselves why did he wait so long to do it?

You imply that we should not trust him even if he were to come out with a "long form" BC.

OK, I'll go there (for the sake of argument)if you like.

Now let me ask you a question:

Do YOU trust him in ANY shape or form?

YES OR NO?

If the answer is "NO" than we have no argument with each other, do we?

If your answer is "YES" then we may have a problem.

Now if your answer is, indeed, yes -- you don't trust the SOB -- let me ask you one more question.

Would YOU like to see him removed from office as soon as possible?

YES or NO?

If the answer is "YES"... then we are practically best buddies!

That only leaves our approach as to how best to get him out of office -- and as soon as possible -- before he can do anymore damage to the country.

You suggest getting a State attorney general and subpoenas and so forth...?

Fine idea(really!)... go for it!

I won't stand in your way.

Others are trying other methods to get rid of the usurper.

Why argue with them?

Your attitude much of the time seems to be a supercilious one.

If you would like to engage in a mutually edifying discussion, -- rather than an exercise in massaging your ego -- fine.

Otherwise, we are wasting each others time.

I hope I've made myself clear.

Have a nice day (or evening as the case may be)

STE=Q

1,713 posted on 10/22/2010 7:43:12 PM PDT by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: Danae

Thanks for the info. But like I said—seriously—I’m not questioning the validity of your documents. At all. I just note that (1) the thing Obama posted looks just like the thing you have, and (2) there’s a discrepancy on yours, which to me shows how easily government records and documents can get messed up in processing entirely by accident.

The only other thing is that I doubt anyone has to type in each field, each time, in such a computer-generated form. That’d kind of defeat the purpose of putting it all in a database. For some reason we will never know, pulling up your name or SS# or whatever they use didn’t pull up the island. It means nothing. I have long been of the opinion that computers are the reason for the saying, “Stuff happens” (SFW version).


1,714 posted on 10/22/2010 8:02:59 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: jamese777
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”—July 27, 2009


What's that Fukino? That Obama Jr. was born behind a mango tree off of Kapahu street in which grandma Dunham made a statement on some "vital record" document to that "fact"? And you've got nothing more to add because you guys know you are BS'ing for Obama.


Here you go again Jameseeeeee,

YouTube Vid: Hawaii Officials Lie For Obama

1,715 posted on 10/22/2010 8:34:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: jamese777
Danae got an uncertified copy of her long form. If Obama got the same thing, you wouldn’t accept it as authentic. ANY document produced BY Barack Obama is going to be questioned as to its authenticity just like his COLB is questioned.

It is still Danae's long form birth certificate that was issued to her by the state of Hawaii. Danae is here defending what the truth is versus Obama who won't directly address that Internet COLB image purported to be his as a representation of a genuine and unaltered document. Obama won't even speak to any adults that he was born in Hawaii, but he has said that he "grew up in Hawaii". Growing up in Hawaii is not the same as being born in Hawaii.

1,716 posted on 10/22/2010 8:47:50 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”—July 27, 2009

What’s that Fukino? That Obama Jr. was born behind a mango tree off of Kapahu street in which grandma Dunham made a statement on some “vital record” document to that “fact”? And you’ve got nothing more to add because you guys know you are BS’ing for Obama.

Here you go again Jameseeeeee,

YouTube Vid: Hawaii Officials Lie For Obama


Kapi’olani Medical Center quotes President Obama: “Nearly half of Oahu’s babies are born at Kapi‘olani. Many public figures, civic and business leaders can claim their birthplace here. In fact, our 44th President Barack Obama
commended “the excellence of Kapi‘olani Medical Center—the place of my birth.” He added, “Hawaii has always been a home to me.” (see p.6).
http://www.kapiolanigift.org/doc/centennial-magazine.pdf

Now if the Hawai’i Governor, the Hawai’i Director of Health, the Hawai’i state Registrar, the Hawai’i Attorney General and the largest maternity hospital in Honolulu all say Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Hawai’i, it is going to be rather difficult to prove otherwise and since Barack Hussein Obama II announced his candidacy for the presidency on February 10, 2007 and since it is now October 21, 2010 and no credible evidence has been presented to show him being born anywhere else and since he has been 44th President of the United States since January 21, 2009....well, you get the picture! ;-)


1,717 posted on 10/22/2010 8:53:22 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: El Sordo

You’re a stand-up guy, El Sordo. Thank you.


1,718 posted on 10/22/2010 8:54:09 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Danae

Darn I’m jealous! Meeting in person! Hey I made the bet how about me?/sarc LOL...

Good Deal, I hope Jamese777 sulks out of his room long enought to danate to FR, and then he scans his danation!


1,719 posted on 10/22/2010 8:59:09 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: rolling_stone

Well get yur butt to Oregon RS! I will buy ya a cup of coffee!


1,720 posted on 10/22/2010 9:04:44 PM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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