Posted on 10/12/2010 1:23:40 PM PDT by Justaham
Vice President Biden suggested Monday evening that Republicans might try to challenge Social Security in court in the same manner they've challenged healthcare reform.
The vice president asserted that the GOP could wage a challenge to Social Security's constitutionality over the entitlement program's requirement that all taxpayers participate.
Biden noted at a fundraiser for Dan Onorato, the Democratic candidate for governor of Pennsylvania, that "Tom Corbett is one of a dozen Republican attorneys general actually suing” to challenge the healthcare law, referring to the state's attorney general and GOP candidate for governor.
"I wonder if next it’s Social Security," Biden added, according to a pool report. "We mandate you do that, too.”
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I'm sure Congress would love it if they could get away with it, but that's nowhere near to being true.
Silly Sten, we don’t live under the protections of the Constitution anymore. Where have you been?
It floors me that this moron is able to walk and breath at the same time.
Mac daddy is he worst POTUS and biden is the dumbest VPOTUS.
The perfect pair.
yes woe could and we’d have a strong basis for doing so. However the GOP is too spineless to even consider such a sensible and possibly nation saving move.
That's your selling point? How far in debt is Socialist Security?
Not going to happen.
It’s the demwits that have thrown granny and gramps under the bus big time with OBAMACARE!
Congress Critters do earn 2 years service time for retirement for each 1 year served in Congress (or other federal service).
The COLA is directly calculated from the previous year's Consumer Price Index averaged over July through September. The summer of 2008 was when gasoline prices broke $4 and natural gas and food spiked similarly. By Christmas 2008 I paid only $1.41 for gasoline. The following year the CPI was lower than 2008, so the COLA would have been negative except for rules prohibiting a reduction in payments forcing the the drop to be carried over to future years.
If the months used to calculated the COLA had been October through November (avoiding the summer 2008 spike), the 2009, 2010 and 2011 SS increases would have been about 1.5% each year instead of 5.8%, 0% and 0% for those three years.
What a great idea, Joe!
There really isn’t any Constitutional authority for social security, either.
So... you’re saying that we shouldn’t challenge ANY federal program based on Constitutional authority (or lack thereof)?
What we really need is a sort of giant Fly paper strips with some really sticky stuff on it. Make it smell like money and they would be stuck all over it, they simply wouldn’t be able to resist. Then you could stand around and watch them struggle and starve......
I wouldn’t mid opting out of SS. The Amish can do so. The Amish and Muslims can also opt out of the 0bamacare mandates. But SS is actually a real tax, so this idea of a “trust fund” was always a gimmick to get the public to go along. Because they lack uniformity, and because they were not considered taxes in the law itself, it will be difficult to make a rational case that the mandates are tax. The DOJ has already backed out of the commerce clause argument for the VA challenge.
It must be getting harder and harder to scare the seniors with the Social Security lies...the lengths to which they must now go, outrageous.
kinda my point
of course, if we don’t live under the Constitution, then the only right they have to make any demands of me are under the threat of violence
otherwise known as tyranny
What really takes gall here is that the Administration under which the VP serves is currently holding hearings to determine whether they can confiscate all private retirement investments and force everyone into a government controlled plan. This is being proposed as a means to “bail out” the underfunded and bankrupt public union pension funds.
Yeah, sometimes his gums get to spontaneously flapping and the weirdest random Pelosi starts coming out.
Poor thing, he’s off his meds again.
Unfortunately, we can’t sue the government to block a tax. They have a right under the constitution to tax us.
In fact, if they had simply set a large tax for “health care”, and then provided an equally large tax credit for purchasing health care, they could have effectively mandated health care for everybody, in an unfortunate perfectly legal way.
They do that with all sorts of stuff. They didn’t “require” anybody to buy a hybrid car, but they overtaxed everybody, and then gave tax credits for those people who bought a hybrid.
But with health care, they made it a law that you had to buy health care insurance, and if you didn’t, they imposed penalties.
Seniors will need a year or two to make other arrangements.
We’re Americans, we have no standing in court.
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