Posted on 10/12/2010 12:44:14 PM PDT by SmithL
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Not all smokers get lung cancer and die at young ages. George Burns lived to be 100. Does that mean we can't condemn smoking in general and condemn it?
. The right thing to do is to enforce strict standards of conduct regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation. Your service and behavior should be all that matters.
That doesn't change the fact that no one should have to shower, undress or live in the same quarters with someone that might have an unwanted sexual attraction to them. Everyone should have a right to sexual privacy.
And, we can have all the codes of conduct we like, but that doesn't change the fact that inappropriate sexual behavior is going be a bigger problem if we allow those attracted to one another to share the same living quarters.
When you say all, you are engaged in bigotry. I didn’t say your facts were bigoted. I think it is perfectly reasonable to believe there are homosexual Americans that mind their own business and don’t care what you or I choose to do as long as it doesn’t effect them. That may be the only thing I have in common with them, but it is an important thing to stand for—— and I do. Individual liberty.
Not all smokers get cancer and die and you can disapprove of smoking. But should you be allowed to limit the rights of smokers because you disapprove? Or should they, like you, be allowed their own choices and have the same ability to the whole life liberty and pursuit as you do and fight for it if they feel moved to do so?
Your phobia about being in the shower with someone you thinks your hot seems to be a repetitive theme. Might say more about you than you would want... all I’m sayin’. Everyone should have a right to sexual privacy—— we agree!And I don’t know how long it’s been since you were on a military base, but you aren’t keeping up if you think men and women aren’t sharing quarters pretty much at will.
Enforce the code, the rest will take care of itself.
It is not bigotry. Homosexuality is a behavior. It is not the same as skin color, being left handed, blue eyes or brown hair. There is no bigotry involved in being honest about a deviant behavior. Homosexuality is a deviant sexual behavior.
My sons were in the military right after DADT was passed. The platoon fairy grabbed one of my son's bottoms in the showers. Trust me. He NEVER did it again. He was bad for the moral of the group and no one wanted anything to do with him.
Look up the definition. The act or state of being utterly intolerant of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one’s own. You said ALL homosexuals are promiscuous, disease ridden, etc. That is patently false and unfair, but if you don’t want it to be described as bigoted, I guess we can go with ignorant. There are plenty of promiscuous, disease ridden, immoral, amoral, heterosexual deviants serving in the military. Do you object to them? If homosexuals want to serve my nation in the military and serve honorably, they will have my thanks and admiration regardless of what they may do in private as long as it doesn’t effect me or mine.
Being monogamous with only one opposite sex partner in a lifetime is deviant sexual behavior, just so you know.
: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
Bigot doesn't apply to a deviant behavior.
You said ALL homosexuals are promiscuous, disease ridden, etc.
Really? Where did I say that? I said it is a mental illness and is a behavior that does not rank with skin color, blue eyes or brown hair. And it doesn't. We don't give special rights for deviant behavior.
There are plenty of promiscuous, disease ridden, immoral, amoral, heterosexual deviants serving in the military.
So the answer is to throw mentally ill "promiscuous, disease ridden, immoral, amoral, homosexual deviants" into the group? No.
regardless of what they may do in private
But they aren't doing it in private, are they. They are suing the military so they can tell everybody what they do sexually. I'd like them to shut up. AND stay out of the schools and courts.
Being monogamous with only one opposite sex partner in a lifetime is deviant sexual behavior, just so you know.
: deviating especially from an accepted norm
Apparently you never served? Service is not a right. As far as rights, you give up many to have the privilege and responsibility to serve God and Country ---IF you qualify. A person that places homosexual sex above God and country is not one I would want serving with me...
Heterophobic leftist?
Homosexuality is a psychological impairment, and the impaired do not belong in the military. Obviously not every homosexual engages in the extremely unhealthy, risky and depraved activities they are well known for, but the vast majority do.
There are the facts (or some of them) and they tell the story without the need of any opinions, or accusations of bigotry.
I realize it takes a few minutes to read, but anyone who thinks homosexuals belong in the military and someone is bigoted to hold that opinion, or is confused, should read the below.
The Statistics on Homosexuality and its Effects
Some statistics about the Homosexual lifestyle:
: One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3).
•One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.
•Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7).
•Many homosexuals don’t pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: “Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior” (16).
•Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. “Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence” (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels “subjective distress”) (27).
•Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population.
•Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the “gay bowel syndrome” (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27).
•73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13).
•25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11).
•Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film “The Castro”, one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to “cruisy areas” and have anonymous sex.
•78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20).
•Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, “Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities” (10).
•Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, “30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals” (10).
•50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10).
•Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, “Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person” (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality.
•It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10).
•Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population.
•Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8).
•37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8).
•41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8).
•Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8).
•The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8).
•The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8).
•Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8).
•21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things(8).
•50% of the calls to a hotline to report “queer bashing” involved domestic violence (i.e., homosexuals beating up other homosexuals) (18).
•About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (12).
Homosexuals prey on children.
•33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7).
•There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is “SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.” This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States.
•Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19).
•73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9).
•Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: “The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality” (22).
•Because homosexuals can’t reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting “TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT” in their homosexual parades. A group called the “Lesbian Avengers” prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print “WE RECRUIT” on their literature. Some other homosexuals aren’t as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page, and DC Lesbian Avengers Press Release, where they threaten to recruit little boys and girls. Also, see AFA Action Alert.
The homosexual agenda.
•The homosexual agenda includes desensitizing the public: “The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights.....To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preferences the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games....At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full ‘appreciation’ or ‘understanding’ of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing...then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won” (25).
•Part of the homosexual agenda is to get the public to affirm their filthy lifestyle, as one homosexual admitted in the October 1987 homosexual rally on Washington: “We are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a protection from wrong. We also have a right — as heterosexual Americans already have — to see government and society affirm our lives” (27).
•Part of the homosexual agenda is to turn people from Christianity: “The teaching that only male-female sexual activity within the bounds and constraints of marriage is the only acceptable form should be reason enough for any homosexual to denounce the Christian religion” (1).
•Homosexuals knowingly lied (and still lie) about the 10% figure (i.e., homosexuals make up 10% of the population). As Tom Stoddard (formerly of the Lambda Legal Defense Fund) said, “We used that figure when most gay people were entirely hidden to try to create an impression of our numerousness” (17).
The true number of homosexuals.
•The Kinsey study of 1948, which homosexuals often cite to say that 10% of the population is homosexual, actually says that only 4% of the population is EXCLUSIVELY homosexual. This study involved a disproportionate number of people who had been in jail for sex crimes (hardly a random sample of the population). Kinsey also did perverse studies involving young boys and pedophiles. Information on Kinsey.
•Current research shows that the true percentage of homosexuals is in the 1-2% range (15,23,26,28). Consider how small this number is when compared to most of the numbers above.
Homosexuals aren’t discriminated against in employment, so why should they be a protected class?
•The average yearly income of a homosexual is $55,430.00 (most of which is disposable because no children to take care of!). The average of the general population is $32,144.00. The average of blacks is $12,166.00 (24).
•59.6% of homosexuals are college graduates. 18.0% of the general population are college graduates (24). Too bad they aren’t smart enough to listen to God. “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools” (Romans 1:22).
•49.0% of homosexuals hold professional/managerial positions. 15.9% of the general population hold such positions (24). Where’s the job discrimination?
Sexual Orientation
•A phrase that has come up recently in this earth is “sexual orientation.” This is a phrase made up by homosexuals to try to make themselves look less filthy than they really are. The purpose of the phrase is to take the spotlight from what these perverts do, and put it on the notion that they are just poor, mistreated people, who simply are attracted to members of the same sex - as if they aren’t engaging in activity forbidden by God Almighty. “Sexual orientation,” as used today, has nothing to do with sexual activity (yeah, right), but only refers to who or what a particular person is attracted to. If you think that people of other “sexual orientations” are just fine, let’s see what other “sexual orientations” you would necessarily have to accept as wholesome and pure. If you’re not going to discriminate based on “sexual orientation”, then you must not discriminate against any of the following. If you discriminate against any of these, you’re a hypocrite. These “sexual orientations” are generally known as “paraphilias”, and are mental disorders - just like homosexuality used to be (29).
REFERENCES
(1) Advocate, 1985.
(2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry.
(3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978.
(4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299.
(5) “Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea.” Lancet, April 25, 1987.
(6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. “Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men.” New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38.
(7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE.
(8) Fields, Dr. E. “Is Homosexual Activity Normal?” Marietta, GA.
(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275.
(10) Kaifetz, J. “Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some,” Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992.
(11) Kus, R. “Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America.” Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254.
(12) Lesbian News, January 1994.
(13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11.
(14) Manlight, G. et. al. “Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens.” J. American Med. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438.
(15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy
(16) MsKusick, L. et. al. “AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco.” Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96.
(17) Newsweek, February 1993.
(18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993.
(19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37.
(20) Rueda, E. “The Homosexual Network.” Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53.
(21) San Francisco AIDS Foundation, “Can We Talk.”
(22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992.
(23) Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322.
(24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990.
(25) “The Overhauling of Straight America.” Guide Magazine. November, 1987.
(26) United States Census Bureau
(27) United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989.
(28) University of Chicago’s Nation Research Corp.
(29) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association, 1994.
© 2000- 2003 International Organization of Heterosexual Rights
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Where in the hell did you get that baloney?
You are either a homosexual or you are a useful idiot who has believed the white washed lies the pro-homo sickos have told you.
Homosexuality is a mental disorder.
I have to ask you....do you know what site you are posting on? Last time I looked FR didn't take to kindly to promoting the gay agenda.
You might want to step out of the way and let the non- brainwashed people work this out.
Go watch some more “Will and Grace”....that should make you feel all good inside.
And stop with the “bigot” line. Most of us here know the truth about the homo agenda. It doesn't work anymore.
Get out of my country.
Libertarian who believes you and everyone else have the right to L L PH as I do up to the point you infringe upon mine.
I concur -spineless useful idiots without moral compass are irrelevant loads that aid the enemies of authentic freedom by denying that which premises unalienable rights -a nation founded under God...
Another slave to man is but another enemy that would aid a tyrant...
In this war to regain authentic freedom, libertarians without moral compass are but idiots that aid the enemy..
FR is a conservative site. We do not appreciate our members fighting against us on our conservative values and issues. If you wish to support homosexual marriage or homosexuals in the military or hate crimes against us for speaking out against government promotion of homosexuality that’s your business, but you’d better do it somewhere else and not on FR. If you value your posting privileges, that is. FR is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-marriage, pro-military, pro-traditional American conservatism and it is a privilege to post here. Those who support the godless liberal/Marxist destruction of our free society and our country are free to exercise their free speech rights elsewhere. I won’t stand in your way.
You have no concept of the meaning of words, apparently. Monogamous one partner heterosexuals are deviant by definition. They are outside the norm. I am one and proud of it. That I defend the rights of my fellow Americans to enjoy the benefits of citizenship as long as they don’t infringe upon my ability to do the same is an issue with some, but that is their problem, not mine. And those that decry the immortality of others are often the most immoral in their own way. The loudest almost always are in my experience.
How do you recommend dealing with people such as those pushing (quite successfully, so far) the militant homosexual agenda, thus destroying everyone else's freedoms of speech, religion and association?
You tolerate that? One tiny group can run steamrolling over everyone else? Fine and dandy?
So, would you ban from the military all adulterers, thieves, liars, etc. or do you limit your outrage to homosexual activity?
Please cite a reference or two supporting your contention that monogamous heterosexuals are deviant and outside the norm.
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