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Texas university has eureka moment for coal-to-gas
www.globalpetroleumclub.com ^ | 03-19-2010 | Staff

Posted on 10/11/2010 5:37:32 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

Are we sure this won’t go the way of the 100 mpg carburetor....

Profit margin is there even taxes to sell for a 1$ a gallon.

EPA vampires must die before this gets on the market IMO.

Stay Safe.


61 posted on 10/11/2010 6:45:26 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Red Badger

>>> One barrel of crude produces 42 U.S. gallons of gasoline.

No. A barrel of crude produces on average about 19 gallons of gasoline.


62 posted on 10/11/2010 6:45:43 AM PDT by tlb
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To: GonzoGOP
Time to decide who is the bigger threat.

IMHO, China is a much, much bigger threat. I've worked in the Kingdom twice. My impression was if you take away their easy money they would collapse to a 7th century existence in about 2 generations. The best way I've heard it described is the Saudis all wear Rolex watches, but none of them know how to tell time. Take away their oil market and that threat is eliminated. Iran, too, for that matter. They are sitting on huge oil reserves, but can't even refine enough of their own gasoline to suit their own needs without outside western help. If all the Chinese ever get moving in the same direction, though, the world is in big trouble.....

63 posted on 10/11/2010 6:47:58 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Red Badger; All

One barrel of crude produces 42 U.S. gallons of gasoline. In other words, $18 worth of coal yields 63 gallons of gasoline: 0.28 cents a gallon.


Is Rick Billo saying that the converted lignite produces a barrel which is total gasoline [42 gallons] as opposed to a barrel of crude coming from an oil well which will produce much less than 42 gallons of gasoline? In other words he is getting no by products from this conversion. This statement he makes needs an explaination but is great if correct as he stated.


64 posted on 10/11/2010 6:49:48 AM PDT by deport (TEXAS -- Early Voting begins OCT. 18, 2010 (vote early and often)
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To: Red Badger

2000 pounds of coal to produce 450 pounds of gasoline? I’m not impressed with the yield.


65 posted on 10/11/2010 6:52:36 AM PDT by poindexter
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To: DariusBane

“No worries, prices will NOT come down.”

No fooling. The easiet product to refine, the LEAST refined, the first thing off of the cracking tower, and it runs 30 to 40 cents HIGHER than unleaded.

Go figure.


66 posted on 10/11/2010 6:54:08 AM PDT by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling "Allah Snackbar")
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To: Psalm 73
The 30 percent figure is an estimate, like most unproved reserves. The Midwest reserve picture is misleading because much of the easy coal has been mined or found to be unminable for various reasons.

A large swath of S. Illinois coal was destroyed by oil exploration. The drilling encountered brackish water below the coal seam and the holes were never filled.

67 posted on 10/11/2010 6:55:23 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: sitetest

I’ve read the reports from them before. I think the process is economical but the reporting in this article is HORRIBLE.

The $0.28/gal is only the coal cost. In the paragraph above the listed 28.84 to process the coal.
Why was this ignored?

Straight run gasoline cannot be used in US vehicles. I suspect that when all requirements are met they would be near $2/gal. Economical if correct, but you still need EPA approval.

I would expect a major company to build a pilot project in 5 years to prove the commercial sized economics if permits can be obtained.


68 posted on 10/11/2010 6:55:34 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: poindexter

Just think about how many pounds of mash and other ingredients are needed to make a quart of moonshine...........


69 posted on 10/11/2010 6:56:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: SeeSharp

Isn’t a barrel 55 gallons?


70 posted on 10/11/2010 6:58:12 AM PDT by steve8714 (Never again should free men be asked to fight for those without the courage to turn them loose.)
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To: TheBattman
I guess we all should stop breathing...

...thus, we have Obamacare...................

71 posted on 10/11/2010 6:58:29 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: posterchild

You see it as I do. The article doesn’t hang together.

But maybe the authors of the article have not properly explained the process. We need to see something from the researchers themselves.


72 posted on 10/11/2010 6:58:29 AM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: steve8714

That’s a “drum”..............


73 posted on 10/11/2010 6:59:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: frposty

Carbon monoxide plus hydrogen has been used to make synthetic fuel for more than 70 years, I wonder what their breakthrough is?


74 posted on 10/11/2010 6:59:14 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: Yo-Yo; Red Badger

It takes more than just cracking coal. Coal does not contain enough hydrogen alone to make most petroleum fuel.

A water/gas shift reaction is also required.


75 posted on 10/11/2010 7:01:08 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Red Badger

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! LOL


76 posted on 10/11/2010 7:01:22 AM PDT by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling "Allah Snackbar")
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To: Red Badger

You can burn coal, after some processing, directly in a diesel engine. There was a somewhat successful demonstration of this process with the Low Rank Coal Water Fuel (LRCWF) project. It started at the University of Alaska and now they are trying to work out the process in Missouri:

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Silverado-Green-Fuel-Receives-Progress-Report-From-Mineral-Industry-Research-Laboratory-OTC-Bulletin-Board-SLGLF-1316683.htm

If interested, just Google “coal water fuel” and you will find more info. It seemed promising and I am not sure why it didn’t get funding, but it was probably internal Dept. of Energy politics that killed it.


77 posted on 10/11/2010 7:03:05 AM PDT by epithermal
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To: steve8714

Oil is sold by the blue barrel which is 42 lbs. Google the origin of that measure, it’s interesting.


78 posted on 10/11/2010 7:03:53 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: Red Badger
Very encouraging news on a Monday morning.
Hook'em!

79 posted on 10/11/2010 7:04:22 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: steve8714

55 gallons is a drum, not a barrel.


80 posted on 10/11/2010 7:07:05 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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