Posted on 10/10/2010 10:28:29 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
Obama proposes to sell China C-130s
Source: Global Times [02:22 October 11 2010]
By Hao Zhou
US President Barack Obama has proposed to Congress terminating the suspension of C-130 cargo aircraft export licenses to China, according to a letter published Friday on the White House's website.
This proposal, which is regarded by some Chinese analysts as blandishments to China after the US stiffly pressed China to revaluate its yuan, is still subject to review and approval by both the House of Representatives and the Senate.
The White House didn't release the quantity or price of the C-130s in the proposal.
If it gets the green light, the C-130 transport aircraft, nicknamed "Hercules," would become the first heavy military equipment that the US has exported to China since 1989.
Capable of using unprepared runways for takeoffs and landings, the C-130 family found uses in a variety of roles, including cargo transportation, troops and medical evacuation, airborne assault, search and rescue, maritime patrol and even aerial firefighting.
However, Song Xiaojun, a Beijing-based military expert, downplayed the significance of Obama's proposal.
"I don't think Beijing is very much in need of such an aircraft model, though the China-made military transport planes, compared with C-130, are still left behind in terms of engines and electronic aviation equipment," Song told the Global Times, adding that the C-130s that the US intends to export to China is only for civilian use.
He said the motives behind Obama's proposal might be aimed at "blandishing China after recent tensions caused by the US, such as pressing for the yuan's appreciation, arms sales to Taiwan and military exercises in waters close to China."
In the mid-1980s, when China-US relations enjoyed a short honeymoon period, the US sold China a bunch of S-70 helicopters, a model of the UH- 60 Blackhawk designed for civilian use.
After bilateral ties soured, Washington suspended the exports of parts for the S-70s, so China could hardly fly those S- 70s anymore, another military expert told the Global Times on condition of anonymity.
"What Beijing wants to buy from Washington is always blocked, and what the US wants to sell to China is always something that China doesn't need," he added.
Agencies contributed to this story
Trying to keep the C-130 production line alive.
Why - they can still make a copy of the AN-12 (Shaanxi Y-8), which, in turn, is a (bad) copy of the C-130.
I generally remain uneasy about the transfer of any military technology to China, even a plane that was designed over 50 years ago. I doubt they will be receiving any classified technology. But depending on the model of C-130 the Chinese government receives, the Herc’ could still potentially lead to improvements in their own engine design and avionics designs.
More importantly, I don’t like the timing of all this. Would the administration even be looking at this deal if they didn’t need the Chinese to keep buying up our debt?
Just my dos pesos, of course.
People pull the wool off your eyes!
This sale, if it goes through, will be the gate which opens sales from other Western countries to China - the same gate, which, for now, remains shut.
It isn’t about the C-130s. It’s beyond that.
This comes out when the Dems are blasting the GOP for supposedly getting Chinese bucks through the Chamber of Commerce.
Is the attack on the GOP a diversion from this matter?
Who’s in bed with China???????
They’ll have Spooky gunships before long.
That’s the reason why the Russians are PO’d at the Chicoms...they sold the Chicoms Migs years ago, and they copied it blatantly. The recent Strategy Page article was not surprising.
Can the F-22 & F-35 be far behind?
May as well sell the C 130s. As a general proposition I oppose military tech sales to China but the Herc is just too old, and too readily available. Anything they could steal from the planes, they can get anytime now, cheaply.
From just one site
Lockheed C-130 Hercules aircraft for sale:
Lockheed C-130 Hercules A
Lockheed C-130 Hercules A upgraded
Lockheed C-130 Hercules B/E/H
Lockheed C-130 Hercules H / EC-130Q
Lockheed EC-130 Hercules Q
Lockheed L100-30 Hercules (L382G)
http://www.planecheck.com/aspsel2.asp?man=&des=C130&grp=Lockheed%20C-130%20Hercules&page=0
From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed092605a.cfm
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From the Russian News and Information Agency:
July 27, 2006
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html
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“We are creating a new world, a balanced world. A new world order, a multipolar world,” Chavez told reporters during a visit to Communist China, one of many. His “new world order” includes [RUSSIA], China, Iran,... and a significantly weakened United States, he explained.
Resurgent Communism in Latin America
by Alex Newman, March 16, 2010:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/south-america-mainmenu-37/3122-resurgent-communism-in-latin-america?tmpl=component&print=1&layout=default&page=
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The two sides [Democratic People's Republic of Korea and Russia] agreed to "promote and enhance friendly relations" in line with the joint declaration of July 19, 2000 and the Russia-DPRK friendship and good neighborly cooperation treaty of February 9, 2000.
Putin and Kim agreed during their talks to promote a Russian- DPRK political dialogue on the Korean issue and international affairs, and discussed many topical international problems, deputy head of the Russian presidential administration Sergei Prikhodko told reporters following the talks.
The two leaders spoke for an independent and peaceful solution to the issue of reunification of the Korean Peninsula, and against "any outside obstacles to this process" as "unacceptable."
President Obama and Venezuela dictator Hugo
Chavez at the 2009 Summit of the Americas in Trinidad.
Note the "soul bro" handshake. (my caption)
Obama, Chavez shake hands at Americas Summit:
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/17/2698451-obama-chavez-shake-hands-at-americas-summit
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Russia's Medvedev hails "comrade" Obama
Associated Foreign Press (AFP) ^ | April 2, 2009 | Anna Smolchenko
"Russia's Dmitry Medvedev hailed Barack Obama as "my new comrade" Thursday after their first face-to-face talks"
http://www.france24.com/en/20090402-russias-medvedev-hails-comrade-obama
April 1, 2009:
"Obama, Medvedev pledge new era of relations":
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090401/wl_afp/usrussiadiplomacynuclear_20090401152002
So it goes...Obama is ending his fiddling and is now burning the matches.
Another Rome is at the beginning of the end.
If they are talking about selling the J model then that is a lot of aircraft. Full glass cockpit, headsup displays, advanced 6 bladed propellors.
There is a large difference between what is on that list and a newly constructed J model.
chicom bump for later.....
There is a reason for the term
“Chinese copy”
If I am not mistaken, the Chinese invented reverse engineering....
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