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To: BlackElk; Grunthor

So let me get this straight. You are hoping that Giannoulias wins because you “know” he will be indicted and then Governor Brady will get to appoint a genuine conservative senator.

There are three problems with this:

1) It is not a sure thing that Brady will win.

2) It is not a sure thing that Giannoulias will be indicted. (He probably should be but it is far from a sure thing)

3) Brady would only get to pick a senator who would sit until 2012. Then there would be a special election which the Democratic machine might well win.

So, you guys are one of three things:

1) Out of your minds

2) Stupid

3) Democratic plants.

Which of those three are you?


54 posted on 10/08/2010 8:24:42 PM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Inyokern
Brady is one hell of a lot more of a sure thing than Nancyboy is.

Personally, other than reclaiming the senate seat for someone like a Peter Fitzgerald, a man's man, a real Republican and a real conservative, I don't care whether Giannoulias is indicted. His indictment is a nice to have and not aneed to have.

When you get together with those of similarly narrow and materialistic interests, as Lowell Weicker whether those who took hios Senate seat from him were: 1) out of their minds; 2) stupid or 3) Democratic plants (be sure to check his despicable voting record and his fundraising at the governor's mansion for NARAL and for Planned Barrenhood. It was an earlier era, but at least LoLo, despicable though he was and is, knows what goes where, unlike Nancyboy. Likewise Lieberman and Giannoulias (apparently). LoLo also knows not to show his face in Connecticut. Maybe Nancyboy can move to Fire Island and not darken Illinois's door again.

What are the differences between Larry Craig and Nancyboy?? Larry Craig got elected to the Senate not once but several times and Larry Wide Stance Craig had a sense of shame. Soon, they will share the status of former officeholders, though.

Don't like your taxes now??? Wait and see what they will be if you are abandoned by social conservatives. What was that again about Out of their minds, stupid and Democrat plants? Put the mirror down and slooooowly step away from it.

59 posted on 10/08/2010 9:20:04 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: Inyokern

“You are hoping that Giannoulias wins because you “know” he will be indicted and then Governor Brady will get to appoint a genuine conservative senator.”

No. I am hoping he wins because when I have a choice of whom to support, my first inclination is “keep the lefties in the DEMORAT party. When one of “them” runs as a Republican, it might change the growl but the spots are still there. This asshat you are pushing is to the left of several democrats that I personally know.


71 posted on 10/09/2010 7:43:48 AM PDT by Grunthor (Tax cuts for the poor! If the poor can keep more money they may start hiring again!)
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To: Inyokern
>>>>>>>>> So let me get this straight. You are hoping that Giannoulias wins because you “know” he will be indicted and then Governor Brady will get to appoint a genuine conservative senator.
There are three problems with this:
1) It is not a sure thing that Brady will win.
2) It is not a sure thing that Giannoulias will be indicted. (He probably should be but it is far from a sure thing)
3) Brady would only get to pick a senator who would sit until 2012. Then there would be a special election which the Democratic machine might well win.
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Nothing is certain in life, Inyokern. The scenario of what happens if Alexi wins isn't guaranteed, but it is very likely Brady will win, Alexi would get indicted, and Brady would name a conservative replacement.

Alternatively, the "reasons" we're given to vote for Kirk is that he will be a vote for a Republican Majority Leader and Kirk will cast the key vote to put the Republicans in charge of all the committees, then the Republican-controlled Senate can promote extended tax cuts and control the agenda and everything will be all rosy.

This scenario has even more disqualifiers:

1) It's not certain the makeup of the Senate would be split exactly 50-50, thus making Kirk's election the instrumental 51st vote on who control's the Senate.

2) It's not certain Kirk would vote for a Republican Majority Leader. He has made no such pledge to support whoever the Republicans nominate. And given that Kirk is an idealogical Jeffords clone, it's entirely possible the Dems could convince him to vote for their guy is the event you did you have a 50-50 senate.

3) It's not certain Kirk would vote YES on all tax cut bills in the Senate. Kirk has done so previously as a House member, but he's also shown a willingness to compromise or flip-flop on ANY issue for political expediancy. For example, he always voted with the GOP on Iraq until the surge vote when he sold out for political expediency. If "the polls" showed the American public supported the RATs on a tax bill, and the mainstream media was heavily promoting the RAT position, it's entirely possible Kirk could switch to the RATs on that bill.

4) It's not certain such legislation would reach the Senate floor even IF Republicans controlled the Senate on paper. Thanks to having lots of RINOs like Kirk, they might have a majority on paper only and the RATs could be exercising defacto control of the Senate, filibustering legislation and locking it in committee, preventing it from every coming to a floor vote, so Kirk wouldn't be weighing in on the legislation.

5) In the event such bills ARE passed, it's not certain they would become law. Obama would still be President, he would be likely to veto GOP-written legislation. It's almost guaranteed the Republicans would have 2/3rds membership in both bodies, thus they would have a hard time overriding a presidential veto without a large number of Democrat crossover support.

So if you want to look at things objectively, it's a lot easier for scenario #1 than scenario #2 where we have a good conservative Republican Senate passing legislation thanks to Mark Kirk.

80 posted on 10/09/2010 11:48:56 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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