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Push to halt foreclosures gains steam (Stop paying your mortgages, FREE HOUSING FOR ALL!)
cnn ^ | 10/5/2010 | staff

Posted on 10/05/2010 3:51:19 PM PDT by tobyhill

Pressure is mounting on U.S. banks to halt more foreclosures amid widespread allegations that loan servicers failed to verify legal documents in what could be hundreds of thousands of cases.

Members of Congress from California wrote to the heads of the Justice Department, the Federal Reserve, and the Comptroller of the Currency on Tuesday, requesting that they investigate the foreclosure processes of banks under their purview for "possible violations of law or regulations."

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To: tobyhill
So the profligate spending homeowner of the 2000s gets a pass while the miserly spender gets to, well, live miserly. That sounds fair.
41 posted on 10/05/2010 4:59:19 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Chunga85
That one was already posted so right now the tally is at 2 likely wrong foreclosures and 2 not sures.
42 posted on 10/05/2010 4:59:43 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
The banks have screwed this up sooooo badly that title insurance companies have nationally HALTED issuing title insurance to homes that have been foreclosed on.
43 posted on 10/05/2010 4:59:49 PM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: Rapscallion

I like that idea. Null and Void all contracts and reenter them reading “pay only what you can afford”.


44 posted on 10/05/2010 5:01:53 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
"In every state there are required notifications that go out to the homeowners of the bank’s foreclosure intent and then there’s remedies the homeowners can go through to make sure that their rights were observed."

While you are dispelling all these myths for us maybe you can shed some light on this.

Super Sewer Service – I Feel Bad For ALL the People Who Lost Their Homes and Were (obviously) NOT Served

Oh...and one more. We need your expert opinion.

Psst. Hey you, yea, you. I got just what you need. Lender Processing Services’ DOCX Document Fabrication Price Sheet

45 posted on 10/05/2010 5:06:27 PM PDT by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: tobyhill
Show me the example where foreclosing on a house broke the law?

Karl Denninger does that on a regular basis, in excruciating detail.

The Market Ticker

Unless you want to try making the case that fraud, forgery and perjury are not "breaking the law".

46 posted on 10/05/2010 5:07:35 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: tobyhill

Good Greif tobyhill.
The jig is up.
Maybe mortage banker gerbils can still find a real job.
Hope springs eternal.


47 posted on 10/05/2010 5:11:07 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: tobyhill
Here's a good starting point:

Foreclosure Fraud Update: Weekend Condensed Edition

48 posted on 10/05/2010 5:12:05 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Mistakes happen but it doesn't always mean that the whole process must be stopped.

If the bank officers violated the law then prosecute but to shut down the system only prolongs the inevitable and actually rewards the current deadbeats.

49 posted on 10/05/2010 5:13:37 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Right,the deadbeats that can’t even find the note holder of a loan who tried to pay and no one would allow them to pay.That’s not a deadbeat dude.This is what happened because the loans were being flipped so fast thanks to your buds on WALLY STREET.Homeowners were robbed by lawyers,bankers and wall/crook street.Where can you call to find a note when your socalled note holder won’t even let you speak to them nor pay?Another FR member trying to make sense of a crime that really happened in America and now banks are forging foreclosure notes while taxpayers bailed the bankers out and the bankers have really gotten the last laugh.Who’s the real DEADBEAT?People are clueless how banks are scamming people in America.FEE PLEASE CLUELESS/AIRHEAD!Are you and others that dumb that you would allow bankers to do this in America?I think so.


50 posted on 10/05/2010 5:14:37 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: tobyhill

“Mistakes happen”?

When they happen in the tens-of-thousands, they’re not “mistakes” - they’re a pattern of criminal behavior.


51 posted on 10/05/2010 5:17:16 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: tobyhill
Show me an example of where the banks foreclosed on the wrong property?

Story right here on FR:

Bank Forecloses on Wrong House [BoA keeps being "Stuck on Stupid"]

52 posted on 10/05/2010 5:19:30 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: tobyhill

“In every state there are required notifications that go out to the homeowners of the bank’s foreclosure intent and then there’s remedies the homeowners can go through to make sure that their rights were observed.”

The banks have failed to give notice in many cases, attested to the judge they did, and then kicked the people out.

The banks are breaking the law, they have proven themselves to be corrupt time after time and yet you still give them the benefit of the doubt.


53 posted on 10/05/2010 5:20:49 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DuncanWaring; tobyhill

There was a case here in Florida where the lawyer was putting the homes in his name. The banks never read the documents so he got away with it for a long time.


54 posted on 10/05/2010 5:22:20 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: tobyhill
Then the courts will rectify the situation and believe me, the people will walk away in pretty good shape.

Rectify the situation?

The way they rectified the GM bankruptcy, which robbed the senior bondholders, who should have been Number 1 in line for the company assets, to pay-off the UAW?

I don't believe you.

55 posted on 10/05/2010 5:25:44 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: All

I wish they would wait until we buy our house. We have our eyes on a nice place for 800k which is affordable if we don’t pay it.
Love this Obama fella.


56 posted on 10/05/2010 5:28:53 PM PDT by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: tobyhill
Here is one of the most despicable stories of all. Contained in the link I provide below you'll find the actual court docket and filings (in lieu of simply an abundant supply of your personal opinions) regarding the issue at hand. I get the sense you have an agenda.

One the Mill attorney's thugs actually stole some of this man's property and was charged with Larceny Grand Theft which I'm sure you'll dismiss as an oversight.

Much to my delight the firm that put the brakes on the GMAC foreclosure machine (ICE Legal) has taken his case Pro Bono.

Now I am PISSED – Disabled Vet Evicted, Home Trashed Out, Property Stolen By Jack Booted Thugs

57 posted on 10/05/2010 5:29:13 PM PDT by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: tobyhill

Here is a link with a few more cases. Several people have shared stories in the comment section — some are behind in payments, but several claim to be current.

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2010/09/23/bofas-unfunny-foreclosure-tricks/


58 posted on 10/05/2010 5:35:13 PM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: tobyhill

> Show me the example where foreclosing on a house broke the law?

It’s more complicated than that. Denninger has been talking about it for some time (e.g. http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=168266). I’ll give it my best try at an explanation.

It goes something like this: fly-by-night loan originators falsified documents to make borrowers seem creditworthy. These loans, rather than being kept by the originator, were sold and bundled into mortgage-backed securities (MBS’s). These securities were labeled AAA, but in fact were in many cases, based on fraudulent loans.

When the housing market blew, the investor was left holding the bag. Except for one thing...if the investor could show that the bundler of the mortgages (some of the big investment houses and banks) were committing the fraud by knowingly reselling bad (fraudulently originated) mortgages as AAA, then the bundler and originator would be libel for the loss (not the investor).

Some big money investors have recently requested documents through legal channels to establish the bone fides of the originated loans. Now here is where the conspiracy begins.

It is alleged (though not proven) that a bunch of the fraudulent documents have been destroyed and/or forged anew to cover up evidence of malfeasance.

However, in order to foreclose a property, it is these exact documents which must be presented to the court in order to establish ownership of the loan. For “whatever reason” (wink-wink-nudge-nudge), these documents are either missing or demonstrably invalid (forged?).

It thus seems that, in attempting to possibly cover up evidence of wrongdoing, the paper trail that establishes legal ownership of the mortgage is, in many cases, missing or invalid. And that is the cause of the halt on many of these foreclosures.


59 posted on 10/05/2010 5:35:29 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: Rapscallion
It's all about the insurance.

If you could manage to sue your alleged lender and get your hands on the Pooling and Servicing Agreement defined by the trust(s) your mortgage obligation landed in you would be pleased to learn that any amount received via credit default swaps, over-collateralization, and third party payments over and above the amount agreed to on the contract you signed at closing is due and payable to the borrower.

Interesting Video Explaining Credit Default Swaps

60 posted on 10/05/2010 5:40:41 PM PDT by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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