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—————I guess that is a challange. Let me first say that the rampant corruption done on a statewide, voter system is no les than the corruption that can occur with the small group sending a senator. -————————

It’s just as big a problem on a state level as it is on a national level true, but when (most of)the states start having fiscal problems their senators would be feeling the heat a lot sooner than they do now. They’ve gotten to be so reckless, even in the eyes of the voters. They just don’t care what we think.

But even your most ardent elitist takes the opinions of their peers more seriously. And IIRC, the recall options are easier to trigger by state representatives than they are by voters.(which is probably the best part)

There are reasons why James Madison chose these form of checks and balances, not to mention every one of the other founders. They all frowned upon democracy. The founders in general and Madison in particular were very well read on past governing styles. If they didn’t want it, I don’t want it.

-—————Now for the main reason-——evasive responsibility tactic?———————

That’s one. The ‘main’ reason would be hard to peg.

But perhaps I’d do better to simply point out words from america’s first democratically elected dictator, Woodrow Wilson: (Obama isn’t america’s first chavez. IMHO. Neither was FDR)

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=2208

============For it is very clear that in fundamental theory socialism and democracy are almost if not quite one and the same. They both rest at bottom upon the absolute right of the community to determine its own destiny and that of its members.=================

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Freedom

Woodrow Wilson’s “new freedoms” may not sound so bad on the surface, but for anybody who’s read Hayek’s “Road to Serfdom”, new freedoms and liberties and civil rights are something that’s as talked about in dictatorships as it is in free societies. But what the ruler really means is that HE wants to be set free.(in this case, freed from the shackles of the COTUS)

With all that in mind, the insidiousness of the 17th amendment starts to come into clearer view.


36 posted on 10/05/2010 5:20:06 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Minority Report 2: Tea Party Participant)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
In all of the years I have been a member of Free Republic, I do not think I have ever had more elegant response in a discourse with another freeper. Maybe one or two perhaps, but none so instructive. I will be spending time on your post tomorrow with coffee-thank you so much.

There are Freepers I miss on the boards here on FR. Some have moved on, some left in snits :^), some passed away and others just drop in occasionally. You remind of a couple. I will be watching for comments made by you in the future as I am sure others already do.

( P.S. I wish I could hug every single one of those boisterous, dramatic, brilliant, sincere and dedicated men who began, with just words, to craft one of the most important documents in the history of the world. Surely God was looking over their shoulder.) Thanks again -I believe the amazing part of your name :^)

38 posted on 10/05/2010 8:35:30 PM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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