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Turning Waste Heat Into Power
ScienceDaily ^ | Oct. 3, 2010 | ScienceDaily staff

Posted on 10/04/2010 11:59:46 AM PDT by Freeport

What do a car engine, a power plant, a factory and a solar panel have in common? They all generate heat -- a lot of which is wasted.

University of Arizona physicists have discovered a new way of harvesting waste heat and turning it into electrical power.

Using a theoretical model of a so-called molecular thermoelectric device, the technology holds great promise for making cars, power plants, factories and solar panels more efficient, to name a few possible applications. In addition, more efficient thermoelectric materials would make ozone-depleting chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs, obsolete.

The research group led by Charles Stafford, associate professor of physics, published its findings in the September issue of the scientific journal, ACS Nano.

"Thermoelectricity makes it possible to cleanly convert heat directly into electrical energy in a device with no moving parts," said lead author Justin Bergfield, a doctoral candidate in the UA College of Optical Sciences.

"Our colleagues in the field tell us they are pretty confident that the devices we have designed on the computer can be built with the characteristics that we see in our simulations."

"We anticipate the thermoelectric voltage using our design to be about 100 times larger than what others have achieved in the lab," Stafford added.

Catching the energy lost through waste heat has been on the wish list of engineers for a long time but, so far, a concept for replacing existing devices that is both more efficient and economically competitive has been lacking.

Unlike existing heat-conversion devices such as refrigerators and steam turbines, the devices of Bergfield and Stafford require no mechanics and no ozone-depleting chemicals. Instead, a rubber-like polymer sandwiched between two metals acting as electrodes can do the trick.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: quantuminterference; thermoelectric; wasteheat
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Well, well. An undergraduate doing independent study may have figured out how to get a boat load of electrical energy back from waste heat. I learned more doing 'IS' than in my course work since I could mix and match disciplines. More IS needs to be done in my opinion.
1 posted on 10/04/2010 11:59:52 AM PDT by Freeport
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To: Freeport

Still kinda neat.


2 posted on 10/04/2010 12:03:55 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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"Unlike existing heat-conversion devices such as refrigerators and steam turbines, the devices of Bergfield and Stafford require no mechanics and no ozone-depleting chemicals. Instead, a rubber-like polymer sandwiched between two metals acting as electrodes can do the trick."

Mmmm, sandwiches!

3 posted on 10/04/2010 12:07:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Freeport

Later in the article, it talks about powering two hundred 100 watt bulbs from the waste heat from an automobile. That would be a recovery of about 20 Kw. A significant jump and could push the effeciency past 50%. It would be really interesting to see this combined with a steam engine.


4 posted on 10/04/2010 12:08:27 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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Let me know when I can ditch my alternator, or will this only ever be able to power my dome light.


5 posted on 10/04/2010 12:12:40 PM PDT by filospinato (Engine No. 9!)
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To: taxcontrol
Later in the article, it talks about powering two hundred 100 watt bulbs from the waste heat from an automobile. That would be a recovery of about 20 Kw. A significant jump and could push the effeciency past 50%. It would be really interesting to see this combined with a steam engine.

I'd be interested to know what would push the efficiency so high in the first place. The best thermocouples in use today run at about 5-10% efficiency.

IMO. the most important point in this article is that they haven't even built one of these items yet. They've got a nifty model and a 2nd-hand quote saying that some guys he knows "are pretty confident that the devices we have designed on the computer can be built...."

Well, we'll see. Sounds to me like grant application deadlines are looming.

6 posted on 10/04/2010 12:14:36 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Freeport

ZT=?

Sorry, there isn’t enough high-quality (i.e. high temperature) waste energy to do much with.


7 posted on 10/04/2010 12:15:59 PM PDT by Flightdeck (TANSTAAFL!)
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That level of recovery would be more than enough to eliminate the alternator, MOF the waste heat could easily be used to drive a 20hp electric motor to supplement the engine power.


8 posted on 10/04/2010 12:16:02 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: taxcontrol

A molecular benzine aircraft wing. cool!


9 posted on 10/04/2010 12:19:21 PM PDT by tired1 (Federalize the Fed)
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“IMO. the most important point in this article is that they haven’t even built one of these items yet. They’ve got a nifty model and a 2nd-hand quote saying that some guys he knows “are pretty confident that the devices we have designed on the computer can be built....”

Well, we’ll see. Sounds to me like grant application deadlines are looming. “

I think that covers it.

I do use modeling software, but I always prototype and characterize the resulting circuit. My bad: I don’t have total faith in models (see global warming)(.


10 posted on 10/04/2010 12:19:53 PM PDT by benewton
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Sounds like a good application for industrial use. Why send all that heat out into the atmosphere, when it could be used IN the plant, and reduce the cost of other energy needs.


11 posted on 10/04/2010 12:24:25 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Freeport

Solar panels do not generate heat.


12 posted on 10/04/2010 12:25:02 PM PDT by Pessimist
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if we could only harness the heat of Algore’s 2nd chakra...


13 posted on 10/04/2010 12:28:25 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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Solar panels do not generate heat.

You noticed this too? :-)

Good idea to try and recapture some energy. I've always wondered what could be done with all of the waste heat that's radiated out of our datacenters.

14 posted on 10/04/2010 12:29:54 PM PDT by wbill
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I’m wondering if this can take out enough heat to go back to an air cooled engine. If you can take away the efficency losses due to water pump, radiator, and alternator; a significant gain in efficiency could be had right there.


15 posted on 10/04/2010 12:30:08 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Flightdeck

You need to think harder. Imagine power plant cooling towers that generated more electricity, for instance.


16 posted on 10/04/2010 12:30:37 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Good idea.


17 posted on 10/04/2010 12:33:51 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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I have more! (but I want to make some money off of them)


18 posted on 10/04/2010 12:36:53 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: wbill

It is a goodidea. But it’s not very easy to efficiently convert it to electricity.

A better bet is for “hotel” load (hot water, heat, etc).


19 posted on 10/04/2010 12:38:14 PM PDT by Pessimist
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If I remember correctly they use at least some of the hot water generated by the Nuke plant near Sandusky Ohio to heat a whole lot of greenhouses. That was smart.


20 posted on 10/04/2010 12:42:29 PM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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