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To: TalBlack
Christ died for anyone who would follow Him. Anyone who wants to CAN follow Him. But Christ can't help ANYONE who turns their back upon Him.

I am not saying we shouldn't be careful. I am as suspicious and wary of the growth of Islam in the west as anyone. A review of my time on FR will show that.

You're not really being called names, TB. I'm trying to share my pov. The Great Commission is incumbent upon His followers. Of course we are to be wise about our actions--we are NOT supposed to surrender to the forces of evil. We can agree on that, I am sure. Jesus didn't do that, and we shouldn't either.

Of course, he didn't go in guns blazing at every sinner, either. And neither did His followers.

If I misunderstood your position, I apologize--my position, in part, is that we must distinguish wisely between those with the label "Muslim" and the Islamofascists who wish us harm. There is a difference. I think that is what Franklin Graham was saying, and I am trying to echo the sentiment.

Can we allow for freedom of religion while insisting at the same time there is only one "way, truth and life"? I think history and practical experience tells us yes.

68 posted on 10/03/2010 11:42:42 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat; TalBlack

>>>”If I misunderstood your position, I apologize—my position, in part, is that we must distinguish wisely between those with the label “Muslim” and the Islamofascists who wish us harm.”

Sorry to interject, as I know your conversation is with TalBlack. You’re right there are many different types of Muslims, because muslims are people, just like Christians or Jews, hindus, etc. But, many types of muslims (people) do not change & have not changed the core, basics, and the foundations of Islam itself in 1400 years!

More so because Islam means and is about “submission” to ALL its core teachings & laws as stated, by ALL muslims. Islam does not allow for picking & choosing. This means, if you are born a muslim you should be practicing, believe in, and submit to ALL OF ISLAM, not the bits & pieces that suit you as a (whatever) muslim. Otherwise, you can be considered, as examples, an apostate, a kaffir (unbeliever) or a mischievous person, all punishable in Islamic law.

If we are talking about different sects of Islam, then people mentioned in this article for example should have specified which school (sect) of Islam they belong to, and in turn, which school (sect) believes in what specific Islamic practices, laws, Koranic teachings, hadiths, sunnahs, etc... Other than that, there are no Islamic schools (sects) called moderate, radical, fundamental, or extremist Islam.


82 posted on 10/03/2010 12:16:16 PM PDT by odds
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To: Recovering_Democrat
“—my position, in part, is that we must distinguish wisely between those with the label “Muslim” and the Islamofascists who wish us harm.”

This gets to the nub of it: Where in all of the house of Islam (those places or nations that are Islamic) is there ANY manifestation of the influence of any other than granite-faced slitty-eyed Imams? I can see no manifestation of a “moderate” Islam anywhere Islam is king. Nowhere.

Do not be fooled by some guy who let some Christians use his property in America. Would he do the same if sharia were the law? I'd bet my life he wouldn't.

151 posted on 10/03/2010 5:01:21 PM PDT by TalBlack
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