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To: ConservativeStatement

I do not believe illegals should get automatic amnesty or anything else just cause they are here.

However, this country—including conservatives ( even Reagen !)have been hypocritical. For decades now we have allowed illegals here by not putting up a fence, by not sending them back, by not enforcing our immigration laws.

We DO share some blame here...by that I mean corporations, farm outfits, politicians..etc who MORE than ‘tolerated” this influx. We, by our behaviors.............this country encouraged illegal immigration.

To now just screech “Send them all back! Deport them!” is legally within our rights...but it is pretty hypocritical.

Before you start flaming away...I would start with:
1) build the fence and secure the border
2) Enforce the immigration policies with employers
3) Create a green card worker visa system that works!
4) Send back the criminal illegals.

THEN....create a way to citizenship with thsoe who have the green cards and they can apply.
Our immigration Department is the biggest joke!


7 posted on 09/25/2010 2:54:45 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie ( Ok, Joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Easiest way I think is to deny illegals from obtaining anything - can’t get jobs would be the first thing that would send them back, or better yet. Since Mexico is all upset at Arizona’s illegal law, AZ should adopt Mexico’s illegal law. That should make them happy as well as that one SCOTUS judge who said we should look at laws outside the US .....


12 posted on 09/25/2010 3:00:52 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Give Kids An Education, Take Them Out Of Government Schools" - and I'm still Molly Norris")
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
However, this country—including conservatives ( even Reagen !)have been hypocritical. For decades now we have allowed illegals here by not putting up a fence, by not sending them back, by not enforcing our immigration laws.

Who's "we", kemosabe? The entire Tea Party movement is the result of years, if not decades, of the political class refusing to listen to the people. The Republicans, in fact, have been betraying their voting base for decades. Every time the people have tried to do the responsible thing, the political hacks have gotten in the way. Case in point: in California, Prop 187 passed with a easy majority back in 1996. If you are not familiar with it, it was the proposition that would have made it illegal to provide services for illegal aliens, or allow them to enroll in public school. So what happened to that? You guessed it - some a-hole judge declared it unconstitutional and the governor and AG refused to appeal. The will of the people was tossed aside. Now you are claiming that somehow we should feel guilt that "we" have been hypocritical? We have been nothing of the sort. We have been fighting against the ruling class AND the illegals for DECADES. Maybe now we might actually be able to accomplish something if we can get the treasonous RINOS and Dems out.
14 posted on 09/25/2010 3:05:43 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

As far as I’m concerned by being here illegally they are criminal, therefore as regards to your number 4, they should all be sent back.


17 posted on 09/25/2010 3:11:10 PM PDT by beandog
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I am NOT responsible for someone else’s bad behavior. Let’s assign accountability properly here. I’m sure you’ve been socialized into buying into all that bullcrap. Recognize it for what it is: bullcrap.
Yep, I do assign a value judgment in this situation. Don’t buy into their junk. Please don’t consider this a personal attack—I have a knee-jerk response w/respect to scummy manipulators.


22 posted on 09/25/2010 3:20:13 PM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Not only should all immigrants sincerely take the oath of allegiance but they should swear their purpose for citizenship is ‘to create a MORE perfect union’, as opposed to milking the Nation for the ‘new world order’.


26 posted on 09/25/2010 3:31:25 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Dear Hipster,

It is spelled “Reagan” - thanks for playing.


38 posted on 09/25/2010 5:33:10 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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