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1 posted on 09/24/2010 4:21:31 PM PDT by redreno
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To: redreno

force the truth
the lies bambi told have made liars brave

FORCE THE TRUTH AT EVERY TURN


2 posted on 09/24/2010 4:33:32 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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i’m reserving judgement till i see more testimony. where are the tapes?


3 posted on 09/24/2010 4:35:36 PM PDT by OldCorps
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scott bookmark.


6 posted on 09/24/2010 5:06:44 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: redreno

So did they find high levels of alcohol (or drugs) in his blood or not?


8 posted on 09/24/2010 5:13:00 PM PDT by DB
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To: redreno

So the COSTCO employees are in CYA, saying he was drunk. I didn’t see any mention of a toxicology report.

Then he was shot by Curley Joe.


9 posted on 09/24/2010 5:15:19 PM PDT by PhiloBedo
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I discount some of what the COSTCO employees are saying but for the most part they are regular people like you and me.
However, at least two customers with no dog in the hunt, testified Scott was acting weird or reached for his waistband.

I got to read more and and this time I’m reserving judgment.


10 posted on 09/24/2010 5:23:44 PM PDT by Drango (NO-vember is payback for April 15th)
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Wow! I’m amazed. Looks like all the cop-haters went over to the Las Vegas Sun to post their spiteful comments!


11 posted on 09/24/2010 5:25:17 PM PDT by old school
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I thought this comment by DTJ summed it up nicely:

“Two points: 1) Those of you assailing the girlfriend for not attending are WAAAY off base. She just saw her boyfriend blown away while he was standing right next to her, and now she’s expected to relive the trauma under examination by by a D.A., in a rigged setting when WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE??? Knock off the presumptions and character assassinations of her. If she were my daughter, I, for one, would tell her not to subject herself to this farcical circus.

Besides, her “no-show” status is a red herring you guys are trotting out. We HAVE her testimony, by way of police recording. And that leads into point 2) Namely, the girlfriend, then the witness from Sweden, AND THE 911 RECORDING OF OFFICER MOSHER, HIMSELF, all confirm that Scott was ordered to remove his gun.

Then, when Scott did so, he was promptly shot to death. Thems the facts. No amount of excuse-making or diversionary, irrelevant, red-herrings (”the girlfriend didn’t show,” “Scott was on morphine”) changes it. The cops literally “jumped the gun.”

This is the second time around with Mosher, too. He needs to be reviewed, and possibly taken off the street and put behind a desk. Though unlike some of you above, I allow that Mosher would get his due process, before such a decision might be handed down. Scott, meanwhile, was unnecessarily and summarily executed.”


12 posted on 09/24/2010 5:34:50 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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Hmmmm. Seems to me only a few weeks ago, some people here wanted to bestow sainthood on Scott and lynch the cops. After reading these eyewitness reports, what do you say now? It sure appears now Scott was “carrying while hammered”. A dumbass plan and a recipe for disaster.


14 posted on 09/24/2010 5:36:09 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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This is the eyewitness testimony of one Christopher Villareale, a CONCEALED WEAPON PERMIT HOLDER. Powerful in my opinion.

“Christopher Villareale was shopping at Costco the day of the shooting and also is a concealed weapon permit holder.

Villareale said he was one of the last people to leave the store and wasn’t far from Scott when he was shot.

He testified that an officer yelled at Scott to get on the ground, “And Mr. Scott is just standing there not doing anything.”

Scott then lifted his shirt with his left hand and someone yelled “no, no,” Villareale said.

Scott then pulled his right arm forward with a gun in his hand, he said.

Villareale said it appeared to him that Scott was holding the gun by the handle, but he couldn’t tell if the gun was in a holster since the gun was black.

The officer shot Scott, who turned, dropped the gun, was shot again, then fell to the ground.

Scott’s girlfriend yelled before the shooting that Scott was in the military, and once shots were fired, she became hysterical, Villareale said.

Villareale said he was involved in an incident previously in which he had to pull a gun on somebody, then deal with police when they arrived, so he has safely disarmed with a police officer present.

But Scott didn’t respond in a similar and appropriate way, he said.

“He was acting in a way that I would think was not consistent with what would be the appropriate way to act in that situation,” Villareale said.

He said he knew the officer thought someone could be harmed during the situation.

“I thought he did the right thing shooting him,” Villareale said.

When asked during a question from an interested party, Villareale said it didn’t look like Scott was going to hand the gun to the police, but he also didn’t point the gun at the officer.

When shown a photo of the gun on the ground outside the store, Villareale said it was the same gun that Scott dropped.”


33 posted on 09/24/2010 6:19:39 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: redreno

Something tells me the reason the video doesn’t exist is because it tells a totally different story.


38 posted on 09/24/2010 6:32:30 PM PDT by taxtruth
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Never give a LEOs a reason to shoot.

You need to de-escalate the situation.

You need to manage the situation.

  1. STOP

  2. VERY SLOWLY RAISE YOUR HANDS

  3. DE-ESCALATE THE SITUATION.

  4. THEN IDENTIFY THE LOCATION OF YOUR CARRY WEAPON.

  5. ALLOW AN OFFICER TO RETRIEVE THE CARRY WEAPON.

43 posted on 09/24/2010 6:58:47 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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Armed , drunk, and stupid is no way to go through Cosco.


45 posted on 09/24/2010 7:01:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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By the way, what is this about?

After he was shot, he saw a gun in a “gun rug” fall from Scott’s right side and slide about 4 feet in front of him. He said he later noticed the gun was gone. Eatherton said the gun in a holster shown to him in a photo by Chief Deputy District Attorney Christopher Laurent wasn't the gun he saw.

47 posted on 09/24/2010 7:03:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Three questions to ask.#1 Was Erick Scott a threat and if so how was he threatening and WHO was he threatening?#2 How many rounds did Mr.Scott get off?#3 When Mr.Scotts gun was found on the premises of Costco was it in his holster?
60 posted on 09/25/2010 12:03:38 AM PDT by taxtruth
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This from Assistant Manager Lopez:

“Scott held his hands in the shape of a gun and pointed them at Lopez’s head, saying that if someone came in and held a gun to his head that he would take care of it, Lopez said.”

But of course, some here will say “What The hell’s unusual about that? I always hold my hand in the shape of a gun and point it at someones head. You have to get your point across, don’t you?”


67 posted on 09/25/2010 5:18:13 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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