Posted on 09/20/2010 2:34:21 PM PDT by Nachum
Sources in the PMO submit deal to US by which Israeli spy would be freed in exchange for 3 month extension of moratorium, Army Radio reports.
Senior Israeli officials are considering a deal in which the moratorium on building in West Bank settlements would be extended for three months in exchange for the release of convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard from the United States, Army Radio reported Monday.
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Yeah, the bitch set him up.
The US always holds innocent people like Jumia, the Wounded Knee bunch...
This guy is responsible for damaging America and her Allies, including getting people killed.
Honestly, F him.
So here is a question for you.
If you are a Catholic working for US intel and you have credible info that an attack by an islamic country on the Vatican is imminent, but the US decides for whatever reason NOT to inform the Vatican knowing with certainty that many people would die and the vatican would be no more even though there is a treaty to share that intel, what would you do?
Has Pollard presented this defense in relation to Israel?
Why don´t they just tell obummer where he can stick it.
If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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Settlements aren't the business of the US, they're an issue to be negotiated between Israel and the palestinians. We've no business entering into a bargain like this. That said, three months? You have to be kidding. Obama must want to release Pollard and is looking for an excuse.
Really?? Who did he get killed, exactly?
The only damage America has suffered is exposing her cultural bedrock of embarrassing antisemitism.
Pres. Clinton pulled this crap with Bibi back then and Bibi was burned. I think finally Bibi got smart.
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
I want Pollard freed, too, but America has no intention of freeing him. They didn't free him when Clinton hinted this would be done and the Messiah is a worse liar than Clinton.
“Americans don’t care why another nations would spy on us, but we do all agree that those who spy on the US should be hanged or locked in a dark, damp cage for life.”
I’m an American and I do not agree with you.
No spy for any friendly nation has ever been treated as harshly by the USA as Jonathan Pollard. While Pollard deserved significant punishment, a life sentence was too harsh for what he actually did, and may have been based on an effort by Aldrich Ames to deflect suspicion for his own crimes onto Pollard.
I think that people who heatedly denounce Pollard and anyone else who thinks he should now after 23 years of imprisonment be released, are actually expressing their resentment and hostility toward the State of Israel.
Jonathan Pollard should be released now as a simple act of justice, and the US government shouldn’t have to be bribed to do it.
Bibi Netanyahu has made Obama an offer that is both shrewd and humanitarian. If Obama accepts, everyone wins except for Pollard ( and Israel ) haters in the USA.
Are you that fracking stupid?
“At the 1998 Wye River Conference, Benjamin Netanyahu demanded Pollard’s release, and President Clinton made a public statement about reviewing the case.[53] This precipitated an “incredulous” reaction in the American intelligence community.[57] Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, as well as six other former U.S. Secretaries of Defense (Melvin R. Laird, Frank C. Carlucci, Richard B. Cheney, Caspar W. Weinberger, James R. Schlesinger and Elliot L. Richardson) spoke out in opposition to clemency for Jonathan Pollard.[31] They were joined by several senior congressional leaders.[31]
Four past directors of Naval Intelligence, William Studeman, Sumner Shapiro, John L. Butts, and Thomas Brooks, authored a response to the talk of clemency and what they termed “the myths that have arisen from this clever public relations campaign... aimed at transforming Pollard from greedy, arrogant betrayer of the American national trust into Pollard, committed Israeli patriot”.[58] They asserted that Pollard passed information to three other countries before engaging in espionage activity on behalf of Israel, and that he had offered his services to a fourth country while he was spying for Israel.[58]
I would suggest that his actions were extremely harmful when you see who went out of their way to make sure he was sentenced properly.
It’s pretty common knowledge. The info Pollard gave Israel was because Israel was in danger and the US refused to share the info which they were duty bound to share by treaty.
He saved thousands of lives in Israel and the truth would have implicated highranking US officials INCLUDING weinberger in a bloodbath for Israel.
“Why would we want to do that?”
Well, we ARE more likely to defend America than Obama.
Caspar Weinberger the filth.
As long as you can’t point to the harmful effects you keep drooling about, I suggest you go for a swim instead. With concrete boots. You may have more luck than with presenting a rational case.
Part of a letter signed by the above: (He was a treacherous arrogant asshole of a spy)
“We... feel obligated to go on record with the facts regarding Pollard in order to dispel the myths that have arisen from this clever public relations campaign... aimed at transforming Pollard from greedy, arrogant betrayer of the American national trust in to Pollard, committed Israeli patriot
Pollard pleaded guilty and therefore never was publicly tried. Thus, the American people never came to know that he offered classified information to three other countries before working for the Israelis and that he offered his services to a fourth country while he was spying for Israel. They also never came to understand that he was being highly paid for his services....
Pollard and his apologists argue he turned over to the Israelis information they were being denied that was critical to their security. The fact is, however, Pollard had no way of knowing what the Israeli government was already receiving by way of official intelligence exchange agreements... Some of the data he compromised had nothing to do with Israeli security or even with the Middle East. He betrayed worldwide intelligence data, including sources and methods developed at significant cost to the U.S. taxpayer. As a result of his perfidy, some of those sources are lost forever.
...Another claim Pollard made is that the U.S. government reneged on its bargain not to seek the life sentence. What is not heard is that Pollard’s part of the bargain was to cooperate fully in an assessment of the damage he had done and to refrain from talking to the press prior to the completion of his sentencing. He blatantly and contemptuously failed to live up to either part of the plea agreement... It was this coupled with the magnitude and consequences of his criminal actions that resulted in the judge imposing a life sentence... The appellate court subsequently upheld the life sentence.
If, as Pollard and his supporters claim, he has “suffered enough” for his crimes, he is free to apply for parole as the American judicial system provides. In his arrogance, he has refused to do so, but insists on being granted clemency or a pardon.”
You’re as big a traitor as Pollard. If you are a citizen.
Lol. Is that the best you can do, airhead?
You know, I think they have an "O" armband for you...
If it was simply friendly spying by Israel, why didn’t Pollard just knock on the White door and ask for the information?
The company line is alive and well. And we all know how that story goes. Can’t argue truth because you don’t know it or the truth about Wye either.
“The US always holds innocent people”
Very seldom thank goodness. And no one claims Pollard is innocent.
He was caught spying for a friendly nation and deserved punishment. His sentencing hearing was a Star Chamber affair, with a still-secret memo by Caspar Weinberger, rumored to be based on information from Aldrich Ames, that Pollard had betrayed the US agents who Ames had actually betrayed. If Pollard caused the death of US agents then he got off easy, but actually it was Aldrich Ames who escaped real justice.
The Pollard case is perpetually caught up in diplomatic relations between the US and Israel. But it really should just be a matter for American justice to correct an egregious sentencing error; of making the punishment fit the actual crime.
“You know, I think they have an “O” armband for you...”
What an absolutely stupid comment to make considering it is you who are supporting Obama as he tries to keep the Jewish vote with this treacherous act.
I am one of the biggest Israeli supporters on this board, but you morons make me question that sometimes.
In case you didnt get it, the Traitor SPY Pollard reached a plea deal. I would hook him up to electrodes until he died extracting as much info as possible since he violated the plea deal.
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