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House Democrats Pass Bill to Grill School Children about Sexual Preference
Human Events ^ | Monday, September 20, 2010 | Connie Hair

Posted on 09/20/2010 6:45:30 AM PDT by kristinn

At the House Energy and Commerce Health Subcommittee hearing last Thursday, Democrats passed a bill to require federal health officials to question anyone seeking services from Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) community health centers or other programs about their sexual orientation and “gender identity.”

Introduced by Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), H.R. 6109 requires HHS to obtain, retain and analyze sexual identity information from patients who seek healthcare, including children.

“This bill is about collecting data, no more, no less,” Baldwin said.

According to Baldwin, the current “lack of cultural competency” among federal officials means that “we are left with gaping holes in our knowledge on LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered) policy” resulting in “significant health disparities.”

Baldwin is the first openly-declared lesbian elected to Congress.

The new bill’s requirements would apply to all HHS health service programs, requiring the health service employees to ask everyone receiving services their sexual orientation and gender identity -- including those that focus on children at school-based health centers. Children who seek help at government-funded school health clinics would be asked whether or not they are gay, lesbian, bisexual or if they know their gender identity.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; congress; democrats; homosexualagenda; lping; moralabsolutes; tammybaldwin
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To: fml

So when a six year old scrapes his or her knee, goes to the school nurse, and is cross examined about sexuality, how is the kid going to fight back?

Gimme a break.


101 posted on 09/20/2010 12:32:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: wintertime
You have now made it perfectly clear that those of us who don't agree, are in your not so humble I am sure Christian and understanding superior opinion, lacking in faith, unethical,conservativly challenged and immoral.

Maybe it's time to end this before you get nasty.

102 posted on 09/20/2010 12:36:17 PM PDT by fml
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To: fml

Spoken like a true public school indoctrinated drone.....


103 posted on 09/20/2010 12:38:28 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: fml

I didn’t mention religion.

But I’d to know how a six year old with a scraped knee is going to foil the school nurse’s cross exmination about his or her sexuality? Or not be tainted by the questions?

Six year olds or grade school or even high school kids should not have to even hear such repulsive questions nor be forced to answer them. Or go to school where other kids are drilled about their sexuality.


104 posted on 09/20/2010 12:39:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: metmom

Are they a teacher? I’ve spoken with a few on FR and the things they say!


105 posted on 09/20/2010 12:42:28 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: little jeremiah
Because it won't happen. Being parinoid doesn't make it so.

But if your six year old knows how to even answer a question like that, you've lost. If you can't counter a loud mouth idiot, again you lost. ( I would storm the school). Kids are always bringing home stuff, how you handle it is what matters and what they should most influence by.

106 posted on 09/20/2010 12:45:10 PM PDT by fml
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107 posted on 09/20/2010 12:48:04 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

That’s just sick.


108 posted on 09/20/2010 12:55:01 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: metmom
Two of you, cute.

Being rude come with homeschooling, or is it just the few playing here? The few I have known never struck me as elitists.

Just note again, I never trashed anyones choices. I simply said "Parents need to empower their children.." and a tiny pile on began.

If you can disagree with that, we are worlds apart in what it takes to raise heathly children

109 posted on 09/20/2010 12:55:01 PM PDT by fml
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To: fml
Well....You haven't stated what is not true.

Is it true or not true that government schooling is socialist-funded and that the taxes are collected under the threat of armed police action?

Is it true or not true that government schools are godless?

Is it true or not true that government schools are compulsory ( that means the threat of armed police force.)

Is it true or not true that government schools are price-fixed monopoly cartels?

Is it true or not true that government schools are a government owned and run social service?

So...It is true or not that it is evil for any teacher ( Marxist, conservative, Christian) to cooperate with teaching children to be comfortable with the above and take a paycheck for doing it?

110 posted on 09/20/2010 12:57:49 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: fml; little jeremiah

Once your child is exposed to that filth, you’ve lost.

What’s seen can’t be unseen. The best any parent is going to be able to do with the public education system is damage control.


111 posted on 09/20/2010 12:58:07 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: fml
You clearly feel strongly about this and clearly I disagree.
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Specifically, with what statement do you disagree?

That government schools are socialist?

That government schools are compulsory?

That government schools are price-fixed monopoly cartels?

That government schools are government owned and run?

That government schools are godless?

That it is evil for a teacher to teach children to be comfortable with the above?

Exactly, with what point do you disagree?

112 posted on 09/20/2010 1:00:45 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; fml; little jeremiah; wintertime
Are they a teacher? I’ve spoken with a few on FR and the things they say!

I was wondering myself what position in the public education system fml holds.

You are right. The ones that talk like this are invariably tied into the system and defending it. However, it's a waste of time. The rest of us are not so blinded that we believe the Newspeak spoon fed to us by those who are just looking to justify their existence.

113 posted on 09/20/2010 1:01:04 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: bamahead

Bureaucrat: “Timmy, do you like girls?”

Timmy: “Gosh no, girls are icky, I only like boys.”

Bureaucrat:(Jotting down findings in HHS mandatory paperwork)
***Homosexual Tendencies***


114 posted on 09/20/2010 1:07:02 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: fml; little jeremiah; metmom
Mine and many many more have graduated from the system unscathed, strong and conservative.
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If they did, it was in **spite** of the godless, socialist-funded, government owned and run, price-fixed cartel monopoly, and compulsory, government schooling they received.

115 posted on 09/20/2010 1:08:58 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: kristinn
According to Baldwin, the current “lack of cultural competency” among federal officials means that “we are left with gaping holes in our knowledge on LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered) policy” resulting in “significant health disparities.”

In a Barney Fife voice: So they want to fill some gaping holes!
116 posted on 09/20/2010 1:12:47 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: metmom; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW
I was wondering myself what position in the public education system fml holds

The bunch of you are actually offensive, because you intend to be not due to your very far far right opinions.

So...It is true or not that it is evil for any teacher ( Marxist, conservative, Christian) to cooperate with teaching children to be comfortable with the above and take a paycheck for doing it?

Describing everyone as evil for teaching, come on! I hold no position in the public school system. I am a mother 1st an last. Your disregard for anything that does not fit your mold will only cause you to kid yourselves again no doubt I am not being honest. I must say this has been an eye opening conversation.

117 posted on 09/20/2010 1:14:08 PM PDT by fml
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To: fml; metmom
Because it won't happen. Being parinoid doesn't make it so.

How do you know it won't happen? That's what the law the Dems just signed says will happen. No one thought that Kevin Jennings, the NAMBLA admirer and homosexual activist and founder of GLSEN (GayLesbianStraightEducationNetwork or whatever it's called) would be hired to be the Safe School Czar either. BTW I've read enough articles about what goes on in most schools to laugh at your "paranoid" label. Being paranoid means being afraid of something imaginary. It is no imagination that schools are leftist pits of depravity.

But if your six year old knows how to even answer a question like that, you've lost.

So what will a six year old do when asked questions about his or her sexuality and no mother or father is there to protect him? No six year old should even hear such disgusting questions.

If you can't counter a loud mouth idiot, again you lost.

What loud mouth idiot are you referring to? At this point, the only one around is your good self... Oh, you mean the six year old child is supposed to rebel against the school nurse; I see.

( I would storm the school).

You and what army?

Kids are always bringing home stuff,

After they've read it, seen the pictures, and checked out the gay porn website. And you think every incriminating bit of lefitst disgusting propaganda is sent home to parents? How naive you are.

...how you handle it is what matters and what they should most influence by.

Your sentence construction is unclear. but you did not refute my argument that kids are in schools away from parents and family for more than 40 hours a week. There is no way a few hours at home can undo what's been done in schools. Or what metmom said, parents cannot influence what goes on, or even know. How can a parent know what goes on for 8 hours a day when they're not there to see? Leftist schools and teachers regularly lie to parents anyway.

118 posted on 09/20/2010 1:14:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: fml; wintertime; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW

It’s irresponsible for parents to send their children out to do the job THEY should be doing.

There’s no way to empower a six year old in the face of an authority figure they are told to respect and obey.

Children need to be children and not mini adults too soon. You’ll destroy their childhood.

Pulling your kids out of the public schools and starving the beast is the only way to deal with it. The only thing schools listen to is money. Cut the funding by not enrolling your kids and someone will finally sit up and take notice. If they won’t even fix the system for that, it deserves to die.

Parents have kept their kids in schools for decades under the delusion that by doing so they’ll be making a positive difference and help fix things.

That’s worked out real well so far, hasn’t it?

Besides, what I find most telling is your total silence in condemning this measure. All you’ve done is defend the public school system and attack homeschoolers. Is this your idea of how to fix the public schools system? *Empower* your kids to fight back after you’ve allowed garbage like this to get pushed through Congress?


119 posted on 09/20/2010 1:14:53 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wintertime
Hello! Have I ever said otherwise????

Rather is was due to parents over teachers, family over instution, God above everything else.

What was so hard to understand?? Those kids are stonger for the experience.

120 posted on 09/20/2010 1:16:46 PM PDT by fml
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