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To: livius
Thing to remember here is that when you scratch the surface, hispanic immigration *is* muslim immigration, or at least is trending that way. A long time ago, Mecha met with Arafat to sort of coordinate their "struggles". And the hispanic ideological agenda is now pretty much indistiguishable from the palestinians. What you now have on the border (and the rest of the US) is an intifada, and clearly islamist-inspired. And the hispanic orgs have long formally rejected any integration. Just to give you an idea, from Mecha:

The adoption of the name Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan signaled a new level of political consciousness among student activists. It was the final stage in the transformation of what had been loosely organized, local student groups, into a single structure and a unified student movement.

Adamant rejection of the label "Mexican-American" meant rejection of the assimilation and accommodationist melting pot ideology that had guided earlier generations of activists. Chicanismo involves a crucial distinction in a political consciousness between a Mexican-American (Hispanic) and a Chicana/o mentality. El Plan de Santa Barbara speaks to such issues of identity politics by asserting: "The Mexican-American (Hispanic) is a person who lacks respect for his/her cultural and ethnic heritage.

So the hispanic "reconquista" is just that; invasion. Just as the jihad. And all the while the Catholic bedrock of Mexico is being replaced (and fast) with islam. Back in 2007, Mecha's leader had an Arabic name, Omar Medina.

22 posted on 09/19/2010 3:19:32 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Hardraade
And all the while the Catholic bedrock of Mexico is being replaced (and fast) with islam.

You got something resembling evidence to back up that assertion?According to the CIA World Factbook, the numbers of Muslims in Mexico are so small Islam isn't even listed as a religion.

What percentage of Mexicans does your evidence show are Muslims, and how fast is it climbing?

26 posted on 09/19/2010 3:30:27 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Hardraade

That’s ridiculous. Hispanic immigration is NOT Muslim immigration. There was one place, Chiapas, that the left had taken over which did indeed have Muslim proseletysing - but the majority of those who “converted” were people who had first converted to Evangelical Protestantism.

They were Catholics in a left-wing diocese who went into these Protestant churches where everything is grouped around a pastor. When he leaves, changes or simply reveals himself to be a human being like anybody else, they are scandalized and leave Christianity. Mostly, they go into nothing; in Chiapas, the marabitun had sent people there, and many of them converted to Islam.

But then the Pope removed that bishop and appointed an orthodox Catholic, and now the bleeding to Protestantism and, subsequently, to Islam has been stopped.


38 posted on 09/19/2010 5:02:29 PM PDT by livius
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