Gunned Down in Vegas: What Really Happened to Erik Scott?

Pajamas Media ^ | September 16, 2010 | Bob Owens

[UCANSEE2]

WHERE ARE THE COSTCO SECURITY TAPES ???????

You will never see them, because they would end up costing the CHINESE too much in lost business.

[mad_as_he$$]

Currently most cops are villains. Enforcing unConstitutional law and shooting people at the drop of a hat.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Is there no Internal Affairs office in Las Vegas, or are they all asleep at their desks? Not one corrupt officer in all of Las Vegas worthy of prosecution in decades?

The job of Internal Affairs is not to catch corrupt officers. It's to protect the Department.

[paul51]

you don’t know what the employee said. all we know is the cops gunned the guy down.

[DJ MacWoW]

Those tapes will probably never see the light of day.

[Hacklehead]

Probably a series of misunderstandings here. There are some people who see anyone who disagrees with them as “aggressive” and that is probably exaccerbated when the individual is armed. Same for acting erratically, as when opening packages you haven’t bought. When cops hear about an armed individual acting aggressively or erratically, it means something different than an argument or opening packages. The other problem is concealed carry means CONCEALED. Accidentally flashing your weapon is a big no-no and the mistake that started the commotion. NONE OF THIS EXCUSES THE BEHAVIOR OF THE TRIGGER HAPPY COPS WHO SHOULD SPEND THEIR LIVES IN JAIL.

[glasseye]

And police wonder why the law abiding see them as unleashed pit bulls.

[brytlea]

I’m sure there are bad officers out there.

[UCANSEE2]

then you should leave.

He did. Everyone did. Everyone was asked to leave the building. He wasn't singled out, he wasn't told he had to leave until the others were. The Security Guard pointed him out.They shot him. THREE TIMES to put him down. FOUR MORE TIMES, after he was down(dead) just to be sure.

[brytlea]

What seems to happen is you get people who only see one side and they scream and yell and cannot ever see the possibility of a gray area. I wasn’t there. I’m not sure what happened. That’s all. I don’t think all police are bad. I also don’t think they are all always right, and being human I think some are likely bad people who are overly fond of power. I haven’t personally met many of those sorts.

[brytlea]

That’s a good point.

[Domandred]

Snip from the article:

the [Costco security] guard had told police that Erik Scott was armed with a gun, was acting aggressively and erratically, and that he may have been under the influence of drugs

That's pretty much all it would take to get hopped up jack booted thugs ready to shoot someone to show up. My bet is that the security guard said Erik was waving his gun around, destroying property, throwing things, etc. Whatever the Costco employee said, I'll place bets that it doesn't match the internal video tape (that's unusable).

Police shot him, yes, but Costco is equally culpable in my book.

[S.O.S121.500]

If you are on someone’s property, they are the king, and obey or leave, just as you would wish on your property.
Light a cigarette in a bar, restuarant,etc. in one of the regions where the nicotine nazis rule.

[bmwcyle]

Costco Nazis manager with a liberal indoctrination.

[UCANSEE2]

Here's what the Costco Security Guard told police was in the store

[wally_bert]

I had a state trooper as a manager in an electronics business (go figure) that was in another state. That guy was always abrasive, insulting, arrogant, and screaming every time he called anyone in SC. Types like him are a big reason I have no real love for LEOs. Maybe the sidearm and tin star went to his head a while back.

[brytlea]

Thank you for illustrating my point.

[UCANSEE2]

The last anyone heard they are at a forensics lab in Calif.

Well, they were. You see there was this 'accident', and....

[Leisler]

I know. It’s wrong, and the second hand smoke is junk science.

[paul51]

the [Costco security] guard had told police that Erik Scott was armed with a gun, was acting aggressively and erratically, and that he may have been under the influence of drugs

Where is this established as fact. As far as I can tell, it is an assumption or speculation based on what was dispatched and the massive police response. We know what the police dispatch and audio traffic was. We have no proof of what the security guard or other costgo employee actually said. I wouldn't make such an assumption until it was proved as fact.