Please Freepmail me to be added to the Ollie North ping list.
Posted on 09/16/2010 7:32:28 PM PDT by jazusamo
Please Freepmail me to be added to the Ollie North ping list.
have some like him as family and friend.
without them you die.
simple as that.
warriors.
all.
have some like him as family and friend.
without them you die.
simple as that.
warriors.
all.
BTTT
There’s no finer patriot than LtCol North.
Thanks for the ping jaz. The Left has been influencing direction long enough. I sense the American people are realizing the road the Left has us on is leading in the wrong direction, because it appears the American people are finally doing something about it.
Once we get through this election cycle, and hopefully have the reins once again, I hope we are able to get the right people in the leadership positions we need in the House, and hopefully the Senate.
Major worry that the RINO’s remain in charge.
It gives me great hope that something similar to the program in Columbia can be done to help the Mexican people. The situation there and here is dire.
Ditto that. . .
Excellent point, R.
Many are realizing this has gone too far, it’s sad it has to go this haywire before enough people wake up to stop the nonsense.
RINO’s have to be shown the door, they’ve been one of the major problems.
For decades, many Republicans turned a blind eye to the mass migration of cheap labor northward. It was supposed to be good for business
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This is one of the frustrations that is snowballing the TeaParty, we are tired of lies and more lies.
Now we will vote for who we want, not who others tell us will win.
Obama wants instability along the order, it allows the illegals to get into the USA.The cartels cotrol the crossing areas, and no onegets into the USA unless they pay the cartels in money or labor by humping packs full of marijuana.
How bad is it along the border? Very,very bad. Mass executions, decapitation of enemy gang members, drive by shootings and induction beatings of new recruits.
The Mexican government censors all news about the war with the cartels, and the MSM is not really interested in informing the public, nor is Obama.
The truth of what is happening can be seen on this site, operated as a rogue site by a Mexican web security expert. He is a hunted man, but he operates a blog which lets the world know what is now happening:
Video Page ( warning, graphic violence):
http://www.blogdelnarco.com/p/exclusividad.html
Ping!
Here's one of the Colonel's gold nuggets of information:
It began with the 2002 election of Alvaro Uribe in Colombia. His father was murdered by members of the FARC — the Marxist-inspired insurgency that turned to drug running when the Soviet Union collapsed and their money dried up. Uribe pledged "an unrelenting campaign" against the FARC and the remnants of the Cali and Medellin cocaine cartels. He delivered.
It's important to know that it is the Cali and Medellin international gangsters that are behind the border instability. These people are not common street thugs. They are sophisticated international business people with billions of dollars and pricey law firms at their disposal.
These Columbian cartels were exiled from Colunbia and found refuge in the poor northern regions of Mexico where they bought off the local governors and mayors. Calderon has been getting after the local governors and mayors to prosecute the cartels. This is why we hear of mayors and important political people getting assassinated.
Someday in the future we should hope to have once again really good relations with our neighbors to the South. But we have to first identify the problems clearly and Colonel North is doing a good job of it here.
So I have to conclude that your distance from the Mexican border is indicative of your lack of familiarity with the history of the U.S. and Mexico in that region.
Col. North is wrong. The violence did not start with Colombian traffickers, they merely amplified it.
Drug trafficking violence in Northern and Central Mexico has been a major factor in that country since the mid 1970's.
And there has never been a time when we had "good relations" with our neighbor to the South: only periods when they realized they were too weak to do much about us.
That's all changed now because of the massive influx of their people into our country, and the perceived weakness on our part since our government refuses to stop them, and actually aids them.
Before the "civil rights" era, Mexican smugglers and corrupt Mexican police (a redundancy, sorry) were terrified of U.S. law enforcement.
Not any more. They know it's a paper tiger now, thanks to Leftist Judges and Democrats (another redundancy).
So now they just do what they want. If any resistance is encountered, they use their fellow travelers in our government and media to squelch opposition. Their guys walk, and business goes on.
Nothing new about it, and it didn't start in 2002 because of some change in Colombia. Smuggling patterns always shift to avoid enforcement; they'll do it again when one region gets too hot. And right back again after it cools down.
Arizona is the region of choice now since the wall in San Diego county is effective.
Mexico and Mexicans seek to invade and take over the Southwest. They believe it's stolen territory. You would be hard pressed to find any more than a few Colombians in Sonora or Sinaloa. But they are as violent as ever, and it's all indigenous Mexican.
The fight is over who gets the spoils of the newly acquired territory.
It's a war, and that's all. And it predates Washington DC operatives who were fixated on the Middle East for decades, and had no idea what happened West of the Mississippi.
It is one of several intentional serious problems in America intended to serve as ‘distractions’ from policies and laws being created; and corrupt dealings happening in Washington, ongoing.
God help us in our day, in Jesus name, amen.
Yes, there is.
He still lied to the Congress when silence would have been better. And the whole affair was compromised from the git -- and led directly to Slick Willie, Patron Saint of Mena, becoming President because the Pubbies were so compromised they could never talk about Slick, even when he sold his office to the Chinese.
Ronnie's people should have left the Iranians alone and found some other way to support the Contras -- by challenging the Boland Amendment before the Supreme Court, for instance. It was unconstitutional anyway -- so who needs Barry Seal flying cocaine into Mena, making Clinton great?
What a dog's breakfast! And Ollie "cooked" it, he and Poindexter and Poppy Bush -- and whoever held Poppy's leash (I will go to my grave refusing to believe that Poppy was genuinely an author of anything, but only a great clerk like his daddy Pressy had been, who was a career shoe salesman and bootlick grown great -- class tells, but character determines).
I stand by my words and you’re entitled to your opinion.
You said it so yourself. Having a PhD in Statistics, I look at significant trends. The activity prior to 2002 was 'noise' compared to what is happening now. In this larger context, Colonel North is right.
As for me, I had lived in California for more than 25 years, have property there still, family and grown children and grandchildren there. I have been and am still in tune with events on the ground there. So your assumption that because I live in Washington State presently, that I don't know what is happening on the southern border, is completely out of whack. Furthermore, my fiance is from a political family in Mexico City, I have two siblings both Christian conservatives living in liberal Austin, TX, another sibling in San Diego County, a mother in Tucson, AZ, a sibling in South Carolina, yet another sibling and my father in Florida. I have yet another sibling who is a reporter for the WSJ. I have a daughter and grand children in California. My family goes back to before there was a USA and boasts a number of dignitaries, military generals, successful farmers, etc. So I think I am qualified to speak on the subject.
As for your assertion that the drug trade has been a major factor in Northern Mexico since the 1970s, you are wrong. No one is saying that there was no drug trade. or that the drug trade was small. It was indeed a 'factor' and there have always been northern region federales that are susceptible to bribes and corruption, that are willilng to look the other way as to drug trading. And since the 1070s the drug trade in northern Mexico certainly was at a level that most Americans do not see locally.
But the characteristics of the present trade have changed from the that of the 1970s with the relatively recent influence of the Cali and Medellin cartels.
Before the drug trade was run by individuals who were mostly Mexican and they kept it largely away and out of sight of the indigent poor that make up a large fraction of the illegal migrants of today.
In the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s there were never reports of a mass slaughter of 72 illegal migrants transiting from Central America because they refused to participate in carrying the drugs across the border.
As for good relations with Mexico, yes we have had good relations often in our history. In the 1950s and 1960s especially there were legal migrant workers that worked for cash and returned to their farms and communities in Mexico and Central America where they returned with their earnings to live at a higher standard of living because their cost of living was so low. My own grandfather in Tucson had migrant workers every year work for him and then return south where they could buy their own land, farm and have a family. These people never desired to be US Citizens because life for them was better back home if they had dollars in their pockets. It wasn't until the entitlement burden here and the vote buying efforts by Pols here that Mexicans became sought after placeholders for political purposes.
But what the hell, for the benefit of the readers:
The activity prior to 2002 was 'noise' compared to what is happening now
Since youza big fud in Statistics you should be able to do better than that. You find me some credible data that would lead to the conclusion that it was just "noise" prior to say, 3 weeks ago when the Guatemalan massacre was publicized.
Know what? There is no credible data out of Mexico, because it's a Third World Narcocracy where there are no records, the "press" is comical (as in, "comic books"), the police = the criminals, and it's been that way for 500 years.
So there's no way to make much of conclusion...unless you have personal experience.
Like me, for instance. I recall being in firefights with illegals on ranches in Southeastern Arizona in the early 1970's. We had to be armed back then just to out riding morning stray cow hunting. More then once, we escorted - at gunpoint - groups of 10 or 15 off the property...and virtually all of them turned out to be Mexican criminals.
And since being from Tucson (born and raised, Grandpa was the Poleece Chief in the 1940's), my dear old daddy was also a prosecutor: so I got to hear all the wonderful stories back then about what was really happening EVERY DAY on the border. Make your hair stand up. You think there were ANY "politicians" in Sonora or Sinaloa who weren't on the take, or part of the Mafia's?
The Sheriff of Nogales. The state Gobernadors. The Federal Judicial Police ("Los Federales"). ALL OF THEM.
If you believe anything other than that, you're a Beaming Simpleton.
My family goes back to before there was a USA and boasts a number of dignitaries, military generals, successful farmers, etc. So I think I am qualified to speak on the subject
Groovy. So does mine, on both sides of my family. At last count, I'm SAR in 13 lines of descendancy. If you really knew Revolutionary history, you'd recognize my screen name.
Maybe it's California. I noticed that, moving here 25 years ago FROM Arizona, that the people here were weak, dissolute, deracinated, CORRUPT, in ways you just don't see in Arizona. I think the current state of affairs in Arizona sorta proves that, doncha think?
And the California kids don't seem to be too bright. For instance, a lot of them actually believe that this is Mexico. Maybe a bit of that rubbed off on you. Tolerance taken too far....
Now here's the original twinkie statement:
As for your assertion that the drug trade has been a major factor in Northern Mexico since the 1970s, you are wrong
Now THAT is laughable. It was massive and violent then and now it is more violent not just because of South Americans, but because coastline control in Florida is far better and because, as I said, the wall in San Diego. And the wall in Arizona: it's getting harder and harder to cross as easily as it was then.
But that isn't stopping the Narcos. It means that there's more money in it, because the prices are higher. So the stakes are higher, and that leads to...more violence.
run by individuals who were mostly Mexican and they kept it largely away and out of sight of the indigent poor that make up a large fraction of the illegal migrants of today
Bunk. The illegals had backpacks with bricks then, they just didn't have to have guys with machine guns like they do now: the border was open. Ask anyone from the old Border Counties Narcotics Strike Force, which Pima, Santa Cruz and Pinal County used to run and of course Customs and the BP.
Back then I was a Tucson based pilot. We had gun battles on our airport between airplane thieves / smugglers over stolen aircraft. I spent more time with Customs guys one summer then I did with clients. It was a friggin' circus. To this day, I'm shocked that none of us got wasted. Certainly not because they didn't try: one morning our security guard ended up doing 60 in reverse because they opened up on him. They were so mad, they burned the airplane rather then flying it. As usual, Customs showed up and they knew who it was.
Y'all just weren't payin' attention then. We were, it was in our faces.
The story about your Grandfather is charming. It's also unusual. In 1960, Tucson was 90% white ethnic American: I was there. Spanish was unheard, and I remember seeing the first sign in Spanish...in 1976. On the South side. Remember Operation Wetback in 1954? It was really, really effective. About the only places I know that employed "migrants" were the big lettuce farms in Marana. Your last name Wong???
There was one basic underlying premise. The violence would not come North, not in any big way.
But that was then, and this is now. And now is the time of the Baby Boomers to take responsibility for America.
And they have not. It takes a codger like Arpaio - he's almost 80 - to keep up the old attitude.
When guys like him are gone, the tidal wave of Brown Hate will roll over us all, like what has happened in Los Angeles.
Washington State won't be far enough North.
Just a warning. Fuzzy rationalizations won't save you then. Or political bamboozlers like Ollie North.
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