Posted on 09/16/2010 7:36:59 AM PDT by jern
emocrat Chris Coons holds a double-digit lead over Republican hopeful Christine O’Donnell in the first Rasmussen Reports post-primary survey of the U.S. Senate race in Delaware.
Coons earns 53% of the vote to O’Donnell’s 42%, with leaners included. One percent (1%) prefer some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided.
Nice rant. Would have made a nice caricature of the mindless garbage spewed by the MSM, but, sadly, I think you meant it.
LOL! Man oh man- did we ever sweat that one. I am disappointed in Brown in many areas- BUT I knew I would be going in...for Pete’s sake- it’s Massachusetts. But it doesn’t matter- he’s a Pubbie and he took The Kennedy Senate Seat from them.
Meanwhile- Rush was just quoting Mike Murphy (pretend conservative) who said no one (in the GOP elite/punditry) REALLY believes Obama is an actual threat to our freedom- but they’re going along with it just to appease us.
Last week it was 9 points, now it’s 11 points.
Dick Durbin, our new Senate Majority Leader. God Help Us.
Important issues include the babies, marriage, guns, taxes, spending, military weaponry re-armament, interventionist foreign policy, support for Israel and other allies, crime-fighting, opposition to cap 'n' tax and global warming mythology, an end to the imperial judiciary run amok. On these issues, this slimy POS Castle comes nowhere near 50%. On his best day, he might be worth 20% so long as the issues of the day are the dull and boring nonessential (and often counterproductive like job-killing trade deals) crapola that excites those whose God is their stock portfolio and whose prophet is Dow Jones. He is essentially an older version of Christopher Dodd in "moderate" "Republican" drag.
Let us assume that Coons is, in fact, a Marxist imbecile who will further empower Comrade Obambam and let us further assume that militant exposure of this fact will not keep him from being elected in the first place. In that worst case scenario (which is by no means guaranteed whatever Tokyo Rove may hallucinate) Coons will help define the Demonrats vote by Marxist anti-American vote as McGovern did before he was dispatched by the first Reagan landslide. Let this sort predominate in Demonrat nominations and the American electorate will know what to do.
If Christine O'Donnell has closed in the polls to an 11% gap this soon after her splendid primary victory over the sad sack liberal Castle, if she raised $1 million since she administered a long-overdue beating to that useless leftist stooge, if Christine is doing this while being a shining example of sticking to her and our principles while succeeding in drubbing our enemies, then we, as a movement, can leverage her into the Senate seat against another feckless opponent like Coons. And we will. When we do that, the opposition party and the opposition in our own party will be gargling sulfuric acid which is at it should be.
Ahhhhhnold Schwartzenkennedy is not the future of the GOP. Nor are the surviving RINOs like Snowe, Collins and the tiny handful like them. If you have become so demoralized that you think of a leftist (not a "moderate" whatever the New York Times may call him) like Castle as a Republican, I feel sorry for you but I won't be following your lead. I will vote against Mark Kirk for Senate in Illinois and hope he will lose while Bill Brady becomes Illinois's new governor. We can dispatch Giannoulias later. I lived through Lowell Weicker when I lived in Connecticut and participated in the eradication of the Weicker virus in 1988. We are taking our party back, however slowly, in Illinois. Christine is taking it back in Delaware. Buck in Colorado. Dioguardi and Palladino in New York. Dino Rossi in Washington. Etc., etc.
BTW, if you want to paint the Delaware Demonrat as a combo of Stalin, Lenin, Mao and Superman, try to spell his name right: Coons not Cooms. AND, if we wilo not change your mind, we may remain ever mindful that no victory need be by unanimous vote.
Did you miss the part where independents break in favour of Christine? That should tell you where the line lies.
She’ll win.
71 percent of the republicans + 55 percent of indies should be enough to put her over given the difference in voter turnout.
I know! Condescending, pandering, arrogant elitist ruling class.
I’m trying to find this quote or interview with Mike Murphy- did Rush say it was Politico or Roll Call or CNN orrrr??
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Substantive debate is always appreciated as opposed to just a flame fest. Kudos for avoiding the latter to state your case well.
However I stand by my points. First, JD Hayworth never conceded to McCain in Arizona. I thought that was rude, as is Castle’s refusal to conceded. No one however on Free Republic I’m sure said Boo about Hayworth’s refusal to concede. I think it’s a little hypocritical to feign outrage about it in Castle’s case.
Second, as for Castle’s record,I’m no defender of Castle—he’s much to the left of where I am—but I do believe we’d be happier with him than we will with Coons (spelling correction noted, though the Marxist puke isn’t important enough to me to want to spell his name correctly). As for his stand on Roe v. Wade, that doesn’t matter much. He’d have been running for Senator, not Supreme Court justice. Oh you’ll say “But he’d vote to confirm Obama’s judges.” And Coons won’t? As for marriage, that issue too will be decided in the courts, not Congress. Neither issue as important as they are to our country’s moral culture are not the driving issues legislatively at the momment. The key issues we’re facing relate to the economic and fiscal mess our country is and resisting Obama’s ability to do more damage with both.
And it is here that I think in the Senate, the GOP would have more ability to influence Castle’s vote on these pressing issues that actually are in front of the Congress. Keep in mind even the worst “RINOs” like Snowe and Collins voted against Obamacare. I’d rather feel we could have a Castle we could count on occassionally than a Coons we’ll NEVER have any influence over. I wasn’t clear by the way if you’re for or against an “interventionist foreign policy” and “support for Israel” and dislike Castle in part because you feel he’s for those things.
As for Coons defining the Democrats, that won’t matter. No one outside of Delaware, and few within, will take any note of his voting record. No one but we political geeks will ever note Senate voting records. And Coons will just be lionized in the national media as a “compassionate progressive” much as Ted Kennedy or Paul Wellstone were, not as what they actually were, Marxist-statist left wing ideologue extremists. So Coons going to the Senate won’t harm his party any more than Barbara Boxer or Bernie Sander or Sherrod Brown have on their own done any harm to the image of the Dems—few will even notice what he does there. But his being there will most assuredly harm the nation which is my greatest concern. Keep in mind, with the US news media only Republicans can be extremist kooks, whether Jesse Helms or Jim DeMint. The Dem’s extremists are only portrayed as champions of the common man. Let’s face it, a Republican Senator as far to the right as Bernie Sanders is on the left would be turned into a national parriah by the US news media. But Bernie Sanders is actually touted as some sort of voice of reason by the same.
As for O’Donnell being able to portray Coons as a Marxist, the media will come rushing to Coons’s defense and dismiss it as an “ugly, right wing smear.” It will be labelled as “neo-McCarthyism” and the paper he wrote in 1985 will be spun away as a “youthful indiscretion” and something “not as black and white as the O’Donnell campaign tries to portray.” The media will bend over backwards to explain it all away, reading right of the Coons’s campaign script.
How much harm did Obama’s extreme rantings in “Dreams from My Father,” his voting record being the most left wing in the Senate or his friendship with the Marxist terrorist Bill Ayers hurt him? Little or not at all—and mainly because the media rushed to his defense.
As for the Schwartzenkennedy aspect you mention, let me assure you I don’t want such people to be the future of the GOP, especially living as I do in California and watching that clown Arnold sell out this state just to continue to get laid by his wife. But I also realize in Northeastern states like Delaware (where Obama won 62% of the vote) we really don’t have much hope of electing solid, down the line conservatives. This is Delaware, not Utah, Idaho or Alabama. That’s not being “demoralized.” It’s being logical, realistic and pragmatic. Sometimes we have to be pragmatic to achieve a greater good, i.e. getting Senate control and thus control of the committees. Yes I know Rush Limbaugh is suddenly reversing himself on the importance of Senate control to support a talk radio collegue (which is really what this is about for him and Levin), but if we want to truly stop Obama’s agenda it’s not going to be enough to leave Harry Reid with a slimmer majority. We need to truly wound Obama by taking the majority of BOTH chambers which will severely weaken him for 2012. It’s the difference between inflicting a painful injury and inflicting a death blow.
And as I said before, even assuming Castle would only be with us 20% of the time, which I actually believe is utterly inaccurate seeing as Castle has a lifetime conservative rating of 52% from the American Conservative Union I’d still rather have that 20%, or as in reality the 52% support we can get from Castle than the 0% we’d get from Comrade Coons.
Finally, you say you won’t vote for Mark Kirk that you can dispatch with his Democratic opponent later. First, 90% of incumbents in all elections end up getting re-elected. And in Democratic states like Illinois a Democratic Senate incumbent being turned out of office is little to none. How successful have you been getting rid of Dick Durbin? And how much damage can Giannoulias do to the nation in the 6 years he’d be there even if you induldge the fantasy he’d only be a one-termer? No, if Giannoulias wins in November, he’ll have that seat for life. Democrats don’t turn out their own. I really don’t understand the “logic” that says you’d rather have Giannoulias who will give you ZILCH of what you want done than Mark Kirk who has a lifetime rating of 57.5% from the American Conservative Union, meaning it is likely we’ll be able to count on his vote more than half the time in the Senate—just like we got Snowe and Collins and several key votes against Obama’s agenda.
Finally, you say all these Tea Party candidates are “taking back” the GOP. Well who said the GOP belongs to just one wing of the party? Ronald Reagan who wanted a big tent party sure didn’t. He understand different regions of the country have different political climates. Not every state will vote like the South will, certainly not in the Northeast. I’d love it if Christine O’Donnell was running in a safe GOP seat in a safe GOP state. But she’s not. She’s running in reliable Democratic turf. I have no problem with electing solid conservatives—where we can. But where we can’t, I’ll go with the barely adequate than the truly awful. Wouldn’t you rather have a Scott Brown in the Massachusetts Senate seat than a Ted Kennedy?
But second, what good is their “taking back the GOP” if they lose their elections? And how exactly will they “take back the GOP” when they are vanguished by the Democrats? That is not to say every one of them will lose...clearly Rand Paul and Mark Rubio will win Florida. And that’s a great thing because I support both candidates. But the races in Colorado and Nevada are MUCH tighter that they should be or would otherwise have been because we elected unknown or frankly out-there candidates in those races, when their GOP opponents esp. in Nevada were solid conservatives themselves.
In New Hampshire there was barely an ounce of difference between the 2 GOP candidates for that Senate race, but the Tea Party in just a raw exercise of power had to nominate some unknown anyway just to exercise their muscle. Make no mistake about this, much of this is just a raw exercise in power by the Tea Party that has nothing to do with REAL differences between candidates or asserting a governing philosophy. Their absolutism is beginning to border in nihilism frankly...to the Democrats’s glee. Thanks goodness Ayotte won so we now will likely retain that seat.
Here in California, we have a REAL chance to knock off one of the worst liberal beasts in the Senate, Barbara Boxer, because we ignored the Tea Party power mongers and nominated an ELECTABLE CONSERVATIVE who in her 1st debate with Boxer FEARLESSLY stood for gun rights and against Roe v. Wade as well as a whole host of other conservative principles despite the lies of Tea Partiers having labelled her as a “RINO” during the primary campaign.
Well much of this is academic I realize. O’Donnell got her nomination. She’ll be back on the radio after she loses in November. But we need to look at the harm we’re doing to the nation, not to the GOP but to the nation, in taking this stand of “our way or no way” in refusing pragmatism where it’s called for to lay hold of illogical and self-destructive absolutism instead. By conceding Senate seats to the Democrats in suicide races like O’Donnell’s, we accomplish NOTHING other than allowing the flood waters of left wing extremism another outlet into the Senate through the likes of Coons.
The elitist GOP strategist, Mike Murphy’s tweet from yesterday:
“Imbecilic move by DE GOP voters. Just gave away a vital seat. RT @TheFix Christine O’Donnell upsets Mike Castle in Delaware Senate primary”
http://twitter.com/murphymike/status/24527516696
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Name The Fix
Location Washington, D.C.
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Bio The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza’s one-stop shop for political junkies. Follow live tweets at @thehyperfix
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.The @mitchellreports interview with Ahmadinejad makes me think of this: http://ht.ly/2FopJ. “I ran, I ran so far away....”
9 minutes ago via HootSuite .
“Worst Week in Washington”: The Nominations! http://bit.ly/9dSmfI
about 1 hour ago via twitterfeed .
Democrats’ lame duck session might be ... lame http://bit.ly/cnjmTM
about 1 hour ago via twitterfeed .
Michael Bennet mum on Obama visit to Colorado http://bit.ly/bkc03y
about 1 hour ago via twitterfeed .
How Democrats can hold the House http://bit.ly/cTEpVz
about 1 hour ago via twitterfeed .
DE GOP Chair does not resign in wake of O’Donnell win; “I will honor my commitment to our party’s grassroots activists,” he says.
about 2 hours ago via HootSuite
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Well, well well ... Steele stepped up .. finally!
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Steele to O’Donnell’s GOP critics: ‘Stop it’
By Jordan Fabian - 09/15/10 05:17 PM ET
Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Michael Steele had a stern message for critics Delaware GOP Senate nominee in her own party: “stop it.”
The outspoken Steele urged Republicans to unite behind the Tea Party-backed O’Donnell, who pulled a stunning upset over centrist Rep. Mike Castle in the state’s Senate primary Tuesday night.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/119051-steele-to-odonnells-gop-critics-stop-it
The pollsters, who are supposed to be purely scientific, are willfully blind.
One doesn’t need to by psychic to realize a hard core conservative who is about to be charactured, fairly or not, as a Christian nut by the MSM (because of her masturbation rant now going viral on the web) isn’t going to win in a deep blue state like Delaware where Obama won with 62% of the vote. It’s Delaware, not Idaho.
And I don’t need to be psychic to look at an 11 point deficit in Rasmussen’s poll today, with their having now moved Delaware from likely GOP to solid Democrat, and figure out where this race is headed. This is all political commom sense. I would love nothing better than to come on here on November 3rd to admit I was wrong before God and man, but there’s no chance I will need to schedule this in Outlook. She’s toast, stick a form in her. And Ms. McDonnell and all the other Tea Partiers can rant against Karl Rove all they want, but the man has more political smarts, and every other kind, in his pinky finger than most have in their entire bodies—and I turn that against myself as well. And he’s won a hell of a lot more political campaigns than O’Donnell ever will. It’s one thing to win a primary where you get talk radio to rabble rouse for O’Donnell. Limbaugh, Levin et al will have no pull with the independents and Democrats O’Donnell will need to win—and won’t get the votes of.
That’s nice. I pray the same dynamic plays out. But every race is different and I think Brown was probably a better candidate and a little better positioned for Massachusetts than O’Donnell is for Delaware. Her big advantage may be taking on “the establishment GOP” which could help her with independents. But all the preachy stuff about masturbation today is probably going to turn indepedents off and cancel out whatever advantage she’d get from seeming to run against the party. We’ll see. I’d love to be wrong on this.
So allow me to take this opportunity to update y’all on the status of the GOP here in the swamps of Delaware.
But before, I finally stopped by the O’Donnell site and made my small but very important donation. She’s up to 1 1/4 million and make no mistake, Rush has helped.
First, yesterday I get an email from the Sussex County Republican Women’s Club. Now all during this campaign I’d been getting email from some sort of cabal...emails with a thousand email addys in it...that kind of thing. They always urged us to do something for Mike Castle, send in editorials, help with phone calls. I don’t know how my name got on such a thing but finally I tried to send BACK an email to get me off, that Mike Castle can go pound sand.
Only no matter what I did I could not get the email to go to anyone but the one person who’d evidently sent it out to all the email addys. All the email addys were plainly visible in the body of the email, oddly enough, and I even tried copying and pasting THOSE addys into the “TO” line, but wouldn’t work. I guess my computer expertise was overwhelmed. I do know that these emails came from the party operatives up in New Castle, not the SCRWC here in Sussex county....OR any other local GOP group here in Sussex County.
Anyway, the email I got yesterday came from the SCRWC, which I belong to, once was a vigorous worker with, and am still listed as the Campaign chair on their web site. The email came from the SCRWC’s secretary, who I know. I replied to THIS email with a somewhat sarcastic response. For the secretary’s email urged us to get out and help with signs for some down ticket candidate or another.
My response was a query as to when the SCRWC would be helping with the elections of Urquhart and O’Donnell, NEITHER who were nominees of the Blue Blood Ruling Class Delaware GOP but...duh...WHO WON.
That’s right, as an aside, Glen Urquhart, another “rogue” candidate won his fight to run as GOP nominee to fill Mike Castle’s seat. This was a happy victory as well as Urquhart is also a vigorous conservative. The candidate the local Blue Bloods nominated, a Michelle Rollins, widow of the President of Wilmington Trust Bank, a recipient of TARP funds obtained by...tada...Mike Castle....was the Blue Blood nominated candidate to fill Castle’s seat as this was all carefully orchestrated by Castle as is his right to not only ascend to his rightful place in the Senate, but also to appoint who would take his place. Neither one of which was liked by us hoi poilloi who cling to guns and rifles.
About an hour later I get a personal response from the President of the SCRWC....I paraphrase...”Hi Pat. Just to let you know we will be working to get Christine O’Donnell and Glen Urquhart elected as that is what we do. Hoping to see you at the luncheon next Weds as we miss you. Also inviting Christine O’Donnell as our guest speaker.”
Heh. Well the secret here is that while the SCRWC was, on the surface, rooting for Mike Castle, this lady, a real gem of a lady, happened to have donated money, quite a bit, to the O’Donnell campaign. I am still a dues paying member of the SCRWC but quit, just as I stopped going to local GOP meetings, because we were all just so exasperated with Mike Castle and his flackie of the evil glare dominating our lives and we could not even complain.
So I’ll be going to that luncheon next week.
Also, on a local board about Delaware politics, to which I post a lot and which is read...by a whole lot of people who don’t know me on sight but let me say my name and they know me well. Hey, I suppose that’s hard for yon reader to believe that I am a prolific commenter on a web site but go with me on this.
I urge all the readers to get out and let’s see you all at the next GOP meeting, first Friday of every month. I describe myself, that they recognize me without my words. 5’4” I am, 110 pounds, look around 25 years old, often mistaken for Jennifer Aniston.
Cause we got to put our money where our mouth is. I tell husband...so okay we go to the monthly GOP meetings again, no excuses now. He shrugs his acquiescence.
Also, I note for yon edification, on that same local political bulletin board of my reference....some of the most rabid Castle supporters who lambasted us who dared to support Christine, who dared to be so crass and classless, and of course the shots against Christine were fairly regularl as we read about how she murdered her mother and strangled kittens in her backyard....some of the more rabid of these came on with short, simple, but very polite congratulations to the winners, and pleas that we all move on and get our lawfully nominated candidated elected.
Finally, though I got more...I just heard on the local yokel radio station that Tom Ross, head of the Delaware GOP, will be KEEPING his job. This surprises me but for now I think that with a few days between the electoral tsunami and reality sinking in, dawn has broken over marble heads.
They’ll not keep us out of DC, they’ll not keep us from the Town Halls....we’re worried about our country. It only stays politics as usual when you’re not threatening our freedom, liberty and economic welfare of us or our progeny.
They’ve got to knock it off and we’ve got to pick up the gauntlet and run with it.
And in case y’all don’t recognize me from the Jennifer Anniston description, I’ll wear a big red rose in my lapel.
And please keep posting all the negative stuff you possibly can.
You’re doing a bang up job of it.
Sorry, I’m not going to live in fantasyland and make happy talk just because it feels good. Just being realistic here. Besides, I doubt anyone will be disuaded from voting for or against O’Donnell because of anything I say nor from giving her money. Like I said, I would love nothing more than for you all to be able to tell me November 3rd that I was wrong and you were right. I will never enjoying gloating directed against me more.
Most voters (everywhere) have not recently heard any conservative message articulated during campaigns. They have only heard the Democrat message and the Democrat Lite message (which differ only by degrees).
Christine O'Donnell stays on message, and she articulates very well the winning message of constitutional conservatism and fiscal responsibility. I believe she will win in November.
I would think liberals would want to stick it to Rove and get her elected.
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