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To: Still Thinking
"What happens when car companies decided to start selling "licenses" to drive a car? "

Without making comments on the merits of this case, I'd point out you're comparing apples to oranges.

The copyright isn't for the physical CD/DVDs themselves. The copyright is for the intellectual property that is contained on the CD/DVDs. That intellectual property, and the functionality that it represents, is what is copyrighted.

When you buy a car, you are buying - and titling - the car itself. The physical property (not intellectual property) that is the car, is what is legally titled in the owner's name. The software license allows the licensee access to the intellectual property.

7 posted on 09/13/2010 1:44:59 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

This could be a problem for used book stores as well then.


9 posted on 09/13/2010 1:49:35 PM PDT by Teotwawki (Live free or die. Seriously. It's not just a state slogan.)
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To: OldDeckHand

OK, then how is software different from books, or movies, or music.


11 posted on 09/13/2010 1:51:46 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Rahm and George at Doe's when the knife came down)
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To: OldDeckHand

I agree with you, but modern vehicles have incorporated into their design, several computers. Presumably each runs some type of program. What do you suppose would prevent future assertion of intellectual property claims on the part of the manufacturer?


13 posted on 09/13/2010 1:53:34 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: OldDeckHand
Sorry, but your analogy fails. Today when you buy a car it's like you purchased a tiny laptop, with installed software, that is carried around by a large metal object that burns gas.

The computer controls on a motor vehicle are really no different ~ yet you not only can sell your car without being attacked for violating the implied "license" to use the software on the chip(s) it would probably be impossible to get an upgrade anyway.

24 posted on 09/13/2010 2:02:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: OldDeckHand

Then how come software patents are allowed instead of just copyright protection? They want it both ways.


32 posted on 09/13/2010 2:10:42 PM PDT by DB
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To: OldDeckHand
There are 10s of thousands of lines of code in the average new car today. Plenty of room for intellectual property challenges there.

/johnny

37 posted on 09/13/2010 2:15:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: OldDeckHand; Still Thinking
When you buy a car, you are buying - and titling - the car itself. The physical property (not intellectual property) that is the car, is what is legally titled in the owner's name. The software license allows the licensee access to the intellectual property.

Okay, then they'll start licensing the software that runs the car...

43 posted on 09/13/2010 2:20:03 PM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: OldDeckHand

When you buy a car, you are buying - and titling - the car itself. The physical property (not intellectual property)

That dog don’t hunt. With that thinking, the car company removes the intellectual property used to design the car at the end of the assembly line?

This “license” thing is simply a “simple” way to prevent copying without going to the trouble of including protections. Rosetta Stone is a good example and they have spawned a lot of poor customer relations and a whole industry of figuring out how to use their product for free, simply because buyer’s feel rippied off not being able to re-sell (or even install it on another of THEIR computers without a gigantic hassle) when they are done with it.

Being able to re-sell a car increases its original value, otherwise it would only be worth its useful life to the original owner, which might be 1/2 the original sale price.


58 posted on 09/13/2010 2:31:11 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Let the other side get all wee-wee'd up, Remember come November)
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To: OldDeckHand
When you buy a car, you are buying - and titling - the car itself. The physical property (not intellectual property) that is the car, is what is legally titled in the owner's name. The software license allows the licensee access to the intellectual property.

Yes, that's how they do it now. There's nothing to stop them from deciding they want to go the license route, and if you think the result is absurd, then it follows that this decision is incorrect.

69 posted on 09/13/2010 2:47:37 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Old, what about the software that is now required to operate any car? Can’t function without it. If I recall correctly there was a suit about the software and the right of independent service providers to have access to the software which is required to make the vehicle function.

Don’t recall the outcome, but must have had broad implications.


84 posted on 09/13/2010 7:19:50 PM PDT by itsahoot (We the people allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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