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To: Marie
So, when your mother, who depended on the “honesty” of the government doesn't get the money that she expected, and when she has nothing else to live on or not enough, you will be willing to take her into your home, as was done for hundreds if not thousands of years, and make your home hers? Or are you advocating the solution to which you alluded when bringing up Roe vs. Wade with regard to unwanted parents?

How dare you even argue with your mother about something that threatens her very security? Shame on you. What goes around comes around and you will be approaching that time in your life someday, when not all looks as possible as it does with the strength and blush of youth. When you lie awake at night after living your life and giving your all to family, and wonder if there will be enough and if you are going to be a burden.

After the economic debacle we have just witnessed, if you think that this administration or group of progressives worldwide is going to allow individual solutions like IRA’s or 401k’s go untouched then you are suffering from the same trusting naivete that you proclaim your parents suffered.

55 posted on 09/12/2010 9:21:33 PM PDT by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: MWestMom; Marie

>>How dare you even argue with your mother about something that threatens her very security? Shame on you.<<

Are you nuts?

Unless I’m mistaken, Marie’s mother still votes. She is trying to wake her up to facts. And it was a pretty low blow to suggest Marie would euthanize her mother. Please think before you type.

Where do you think that money is coming from? Marie’s mother is advocating spending YOUR grandchildren’s money for her lifestyle because she was “promised”. Marie’s mother, along with the entire baby boomer generation (and yes, that includes me) needs to realize that they were lied to. There is no lockbox. The money is not there and THAT is what Marie is telling her mother.

I am just like Marie’s mother. I’ve worked since I was 15. I’ve paid into that system. My dad died at 52 and didn’t take a cent, my mom at 61 and took a year of SS widows benefits (she worked too). All of us paid and the system is broke.

Marie was doing her mother a favor by waking her up while she can still save. Her mother thinks she is retiring on SS. It ain’t happening for Baby Boomers.


65 posted on 09/13/2010 4:50:27 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: MWestMom
Let's break this down point by point.

So, when your mother, who depended on the “honesty” of the government doesn't get the money that she expected, and when she has nothing else to live on or not enough, you will be willing to take her into your home, as was done for hundreds if not thousands of years, and make your home hers?

Done and done. We've taken her in for a time and now she's living with another relative until we can build her a small house.

Or are you advocating the solution to which you alluded when bringing up Roe vs. Wade with regard to unwanted parents?

I normally don't "react" to comments made on FR, but this one burned me up. What I *said* was that I was *afraid* that the younger generations would lash out at the elderly. Maybe not by directly killing them, but by advocating the elderly to just check out on their own. Roe devalued life. The killing of the unborn is the first step. Killing of the infirm is the second. (Terri Schiavo) I am terrified that killing the elderly will come next.How dare you even argue with your mother about something that threatens her very security? Shame on you.How in the heck is *informing* my mom that SS is a threatened Ponzi scheme that might not be there for her (at least as much as she expects) a *threat*? What goes around comes around and you will be approaching that time in your life someday, when not all looks as possible as it does with the strength and blush of youth. When you lie awake at night after living your life and giving your all to family, and wonder if there will be enough and if you are going to be a burden.

Sorry lady, but I'm already there. Youth and strength left me before I had a chance to finish raising my kids. As for the "what goes around, comes around" crack... THINK. SS and Medicare WILL NOT be there for us. What goes around, comes around? What a load. If that were true, the Ponzi scheme would go on forever. But it won't. Your kids and grandkids are screwed. Yeah, we're going to be old one day. And we won't have Uncle Sugar to lean on.After the economic debacle we have just witnessed, if you think that this administration or group of progressives worldwide is going to allow individual solutions like IRA’s or 401k’s go untouched then you are suffering from the same trusting naivete that you proclaim your parents suffered.

Where in the heck did you get the idea that I thought that?? Hubby and I need twenty years to build a home that's as self-sufficient as possible and to get a farm up and running that can be managed by two broken old people.

You took everything that I said in the worse possible light and threw in much of your own interpretations. I was writing of my fears for my mom, myself and my kids. I was writing of my frustration at the unwillingness of the older generation to even admit that there's a problem.

78 posted on 09/13/2010 8:15:27 PM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: MWestMom

How do you not understand that there is no social security money left? My generation will not get what we paid in and I turn 50 in a few weeks.I would gladly tke both of our parents in if that is what needs to be done but I truly think that some of you should face up to the fact that in 1965 LBJ raided the trust fund and had it put into the general fund and now has even spent way beyond that keeping entitlemints rolling out. The moment that China says no more the whole house of cards come crashing.We ALL will have to sacarfice there is no way around it and to think that we will not have to is a complete fantasy.


83 posted on 09/14/2010 11:15:35 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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