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To: Colofornian
You are totally clueless. Abortion has been occurring for over 3 decades. It is horrible and it needs to be ended and nobody is debating that, but if we don't act right now to do something about this economy, the abortions will continue, and the lives of those children who are not aborted will also be at risk, as will their parents.

You need to go back and study the history of the great depression and comprehend just what a horrible time it was. We are inches away from sinking into that abyss and the suffering will be worse, abortions will increase as people decide not to have that child because they cannot afford it.

Unfortunately, the battle against abortion is one that can only be one by changing the minds of the people and the legislators, it is a war of attrition and perhaps oneday we will prevail, but if we start tossing every politician that prioritizes the economy and the immediate problems America faces under the bus because they don't champion abortion as well, then Democrats will win, abortion will continue unabated and with no hope of being ended.

Do you really believe that President Obama will ever be moved to stop abortion? Do you really believe that a man who voted to kill any baby that survives abortion will support or sign into law any restriction to abortion?

You better concentrate on getting a pro-life, anti-abortion President into office so that he can fight that battle instead of reflexively dumping on him because he sees the realities of the political landscape and suggest focusing on the economy.

Your entire screed is irrational. Without conservative Republicans in office, abortions will never ever be stopped. Buy a clue.
93 posted on 09/08/2010 2:12:03 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: Sudetenland; Colofornian

If you want to win elections then you have to fire up conservatives, that means social conservatives, buy a clue, to quote you.


106 posted on 09/08/2010 4:52:33 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Sudetenland; ansel12
You are totally clueless. Abortion has been occurring for over 3 decades. It is horrible and it needs to be ended and nobody is debating that, but if we don't act right now to do something about this economy, the abortions will continue, and the lives of those children who are not aborted will also be at risk, as will their parents.

Hmmm...why have you seemingly missed the obvious social hints? Guess what? High taxes & unemployment have been occurring for generations -- not just decades. You do recall a certain time call "The Great Depression" from your history books, doncha?

High taxes and govt boondoggles & govt overreach needs to be stopped; and unemployment needs to be diminished. (Nobody is debating that)...wait a minute...actually liberals are debating that -- just like they debate abortion...Oh, well, your discernment radar seems to be skewed.

But if we don't act right now to do something about this killing off the next generation & opening up marriage to polygamy, etc., govt overreach into funding these types of shenanigans will continue, and the culpability of those taxpayers who otherwise wouldn't fund such atrocities could be held accountable by God for not objecting to both abortion & paying for it!

You need to go back and study the history of the great depression and comprehend just what a horrible time it was. We are inches away from sinking into that abyss and the suffering will be worse, abortions will increase as people decide not to have that child because they cannot afford it.

As I said, you need to go back & study the history of the great depression to know that our poor ways of maintaining an economy is deeply rooted in our culture. What you don't seem to realize was the moral freefall that preceded the depression...cross-dressers in the 20s in Berlin...The German euthanasia program that started in 1919-1920...where they came up with the slogan "life unworthy of life"...And they not only talked about such "unworthy life" but proceeded to set up centers where they start killing such designated people...go ahead...fly to Germany...you can still visit the pre-Nazi center...Margaret Sanger putting out her stuff in the 1910s and 1920s...Havelock Ellis being ahead of even the 1960s sexual revolutionaries back in the same time era...and some of these leaders along with others who participated in the turn-of-the century (19th-->20th) eugenics movement.

May I suggest you do a Google search on the eugenics movement and see what it stood for pre-Great Depression?

You better concentrate on getting a pro-life, anti-abortion President into office so that he can fight that battle instead of reflexively dumping on him because he sees the realities of the political landscape and suggest focusing on the economy. Your entire screed is irrational. Without conservative Republicans in office, abortions will never ever be stopped. Buy a clue.

Hmmm...have you ever noticed that with Republicans in office that abortion hasn't been stopped? (Even in states where Republicans have held a vast majority) Have you noticed that pro-life Bush didn't stop abortion, either?

What's funny is that rhetoric alone hasn't won much on behalf of the pre-born; yet even on the rhetoric you seem to be advocating that it be squelched.

157 posted on 09/09/2010 3:53:24 AM PDT by Colofornian ( If we could CTR, we wouldn't need Jesus to be OUR righteousness (1 Cor. 1:30))
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