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Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Home With AK-47 (Axe To Grind Alert!)
CBS New York ^ | 09/07/2010 | CBS New York

Posted on 09/07/2010 5:02:01 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

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1 posted on 09/07/2010 5:02:02 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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Problems with ROE?


2 posted on 09/07/2010 5:04:58 PM PDT by huldah1776
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If a free citizen cannot be allowed to possess a fully-functional AK 47, then he is not a free citizen.


3 posted on 09/07/2010 5:05:02 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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Gee, if they were going to charge the guy with a felony, the least they could have done was shot his dog.

/s

4 posted on 09/07/2010 5:06:45 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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I don’t doubt something happened but the whole thing sounds kind of far-fetched. Seems some details were left out like why was this homeowner targeted in the first place?


5 posted on 09/07/2010 5:06:45 PM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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You lost your country in Nov 2008 and every TV network and TV channel support him and Islam. My only hop is MS-13 decides to invade the Hamptons.


6 posted on 09/07/2010 5:06:55 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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I think tea partiers should get involved in things like this.


7 posted on 09/07/2010 5:07:05 PM PDT by barmag25
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“AK-47...When you positively, absolutely, have to kill every mutha——er in the room!” — Samuel L. Jackson from the movie “Jackie Brown.”


8 posted on 09/07/2010 5:08:04 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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I doubt he had an AK auto. MSM lying again.


9 posted on 09/07/2010 5:08:39 PM PDT by Paladin2
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How can one use equal force when you have a 30 to 1 type of situation. It is ludicrous to think that one person is going to fight off 30 other people at one time.
10 posted on 09/07/2010 5:08:54 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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My only hope is MS-13 decides to invade the Hamptons.

They are already there, and have been for years now. Its just that the Southhampton and East Hampton police keep them out of the celebutards hair during the summer months.

11 posted on 09/07/2010 5:09:10 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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Long Island is a mess. NY Gun laws are a mess. Shots into the ground was the problem. Don’t bring it out if you ain’t gonna use it.
New York has no “Castle” laws. You must retreat, even from inside your own home. The criminals, both political and judicial rule the roost. This guy will fry unless he gets real help.
Not a good case to challenge existing NY gun laws nor for the Tea Partiers to get up in arms about (pun-intended).
Like the previous poster mentioned, there has to be more to this story . . .


12 posted on 09/07/2010 5:13:55 PM PDT by Macoozie (Go Sarah! Palin/Bolton 2012)
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Christ, I wish people would think tactically.

You cannot possibly own the ground outside with multiple subjects from multiple angles. But let them come inside the house to get you, stack them in a hallway or on a staircase.

You are also much more legally covered. A guy walking up on your grass, trespassing. A guy walking into your door, home invasion and very, very hard to prosecute criminally.

Shoot up your own house, no big deal. Put rounds downrange throughout the neighborhood, bad juju.


13 posted on 09/07/2010 5:19:04 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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The rules of engagement are a little different in Texas. I received this piece of advice if you fire a weapon that attracts the attention of the police and someone is dead. .

Lay the weapon down and stand away from it with hands exposed and immediately comply with the officers instructions when they arrive. Do not run up to them, don't try to "give" the gun to them. Just put it down and stand away from it.

Give your name and address then ask to talk to your attorney and answer no questions. Make sure that you don't say anything other than I thought he/she/they were going to kill me and do NOT ELABORATE. Then just state you no longer want to speak without the benefit of an attorney.

Don't bargain or accept their sympathies or threats. Just be quiet and sit quietly until you are either booked or released.

You must get an attorney if you've shot someone. Hopefully this will never happen to any FReepers, but remember that there are people in jail and have been civilly sued because of statements made in fear, excitement, anger and relief. I am not an attorney but have had experience with police officers both good and not so good.

They have a similar problem, they have experience with the public both good and not so good.

14 posted on 09/07/2010 5:20:08 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (Our President-A modest man, who has much to be modest about.)
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Wait inside until they kick in the door and then shoot to kill. Go through as many wallets as you can before the police arrive.


15 posted on 09/07/2010 5:23:22 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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Thats why I love Texas, you can now use deadly force in a situation like this to defend your property. Then there is still on the books the after sundown law where you can use legal force. We had a similar situation in Dallas where a good Hispanic man emptied 30 rounds into a car outside his house of gang bangers after dark. He was no-billed by the DA. Not condoning any of this just saying you have a lot more legal choices in Texas.


16 posted on 09/07/2010 5:24:57 PM PDT by pwatson
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He got an AK-47 assault rifle, pulled the trigger and he ended up in jail, reports CBS 2’s Pablo Guzman.

What does it take to defend ones property lawfully against the unlawful legally, a paintball gun?

17 posted on 09/07/2010 5:27:49 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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I doubt he had an AK auto. MSM lying again.

Defending his property against miscreants and HE is the one behind the legal eight ball because of 2nd amendment hair splitting.

A disgusting show of American freedom IMO.

18 posted on 09/07/2010 5:31:50 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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When “ShotSpotter” technology is employed in your area, you know it’s probably time to move.


19 posted on 09/07/2010 5:32:23 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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by the way under the law there is no such thing as a warning shot. Once you fire a gun you no longer have control of that round and its considered deadly. Something all hunters should be taught never fire unless you know what is behind your target and where a missed bullet will end up. I have not fired great shots I had at deer when I was not sure of the ability of the the bullet to go over a hill or into someplace I was not sure of. Thats why a shot gun is better in an urban attack like this. you have a lot less chance of shooting your neighbors kid in bed with a shotgun pellet than a supersonic rifle bullet.


20 posted on 09/07/2010 5:35:06 PM PDT by pwatson
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