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To: GingisK
This was my original question, and you answered with a question and then changed the subject with another question. For the context look up your prior threads.

What do they think will happen if we actually do give up all our rights because of violent muslims?

Before you say you aren't calling for "all our rights" to be given up, please explain any incrementalist philosophy you espouse. Also, since I guess I'm continuing this thing, let me say that I have thought a lot about my position on this since we started and feel even more strongly that I am correct. So if you can come up with some additional, new argument to convince me otherwise I'm listening (I really am) but you have not come close with what you've offered so far.

340 posted on 09/07/2010 12:48:18 PM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: paulycy
What do they think will happen if we actually do give up all our rights because of violent muslims?

Ah, I understand the question and even why my answer didn't work. I do not advocate giving up any rights to anyone or anything. Not the Muslims, not even our own government. I do not even seek to curtail your rights. I am, on the other hand, cautioning that the exercise of Free Speech does have its affects. It is better that the affects of Free Speech be positive rather than disastrous. How we chose to use our rights are ours to make; however, we cannot be a responsible citizen if we blurt out whatever we feel like without some forethought to the consequences. We can use the same airspace to advocate some sort of decisive action against our enemies or even to propose some novel way of ceasing hostilities. We are not using our Rights wisely if our voice causes new or additional mayhem.

Now, if instead of taking the time to burn a Muslim document, suppose that church utilized that time to write letters of comfort to the families of fallen troops or called for a more thoughtful application of our military? Our Southern border calls out for military action. Wouldn't the airtime be better spent demanding that our unwise leaders fortify that border rather than inciting more Muslim violence through insult?

I never spoke in this thread to curtail the Right of Free Speech. I have been calling for a wiser and more meaningful use of that Right. The book burning is simply insult and taunt. It is useless, and even goes against Scripture. When a Christian church ignores its own teachings to make some useless and possibly life threatening gesture, I can't help but marvel at how that Church is attempting to shame the Muslims by acting just like them.

I don't think that any of the Muslim nations deserve the blood of our soldiers. I am all in favor of sending them back to the stone age and then letting them dig out on thier own. On the other hand, we are being invaded by real enemies from the South. It is time for our government to act that way. They won't unless we use our Free Speech to modify business. That isn't going to happen if The People are busy trying to egg on the bar room brawl.

Thank you for returning to the thread. I do enjoy your company. Every real Kraut like to argue.

347 posted on 09/07/2010 1:36:30 PM PDT by GingisK
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