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Greenland ice loss rates 'one-third' of what was thought
The Register - UK ^ | Sept. 7, 2010 | Lewis Page

Posted on 09/07/2010 5:16:16 AM PDT by ConservativeMind

The rate at which ice is disappearing from Greenland and Western Antarctica has been seriously overestimated, according to new research. Contrasting estimates of Greenland ice melt. Previous analysis in blue: New in red. The colour bands represent uncertainty. Credit: Nature Geoscience

'Deviates rather sharply from general assumptions' - Yes.

Measuring a disappearing ice cap is actually quite difficult to do, as the areas in question are remote, hostile environments and the exact depth of ice is often unknown. This has caused a lot of argument among climate scientists regarding how much ice is melting and running into the sea, as this affects predictions of sea-level rise and other aspects of climate modelling. (Floating sea ice, like that which makes up most of the Arctic cap apart from Greenland, is less of an issue as its melting doesn't affect the sea level.)

Thus it is that since 2002, NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE) satellite data has been used to make an estimate of ice melt from Greenland and Western Antarctica. (The rest of Antarctica doesn't seem to be melting at all - indeed Antarctica as a whole is actually gaining ice area rather than losing it - but some regions in the West are melting. The reasons for this are under investigation.)

The original GRACE-based estimates indicated as much as 1,500 billion tonnes ice loss just from Greenland in the period 2003-2009 - equivalent to a global sea-level rise of over 4mm on its own. However it has since become clear that these numbers weren't properly corrected for the phenomenon of "rebound", where the Earth's crust rises as ice is removed. GPS precise-location devices fixed to bedrock outcrops in Antarctica showed this last year, but nobody was sure how bad the errors were.

Now a team of researchers based at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and in the Netherlands say they have the answer.

"The corrections for deformations of the Earth’s crust have a considerable effect on the amount of ice that is estimated to be melting each year," explains Dr Bert Vermeersen. "We have concluded that the Greenland and West Antarctica ice caps are melting at approximately half the speed originally predicted."

Vermeersen and his colleagues' calculations show that as little as 500 gigatonnes of ice or even less could have melted from Greenland during 2003-2009, translating into less than 2mm of sea-level rise. In the case of Greenland, it could be that the current estimates are triple what they should be.

"For Greenland in particular, we have found a glacial isostatic adjustment model that deviates rather sharply from general assumptions," says Vermeersen.

Both the JPL/Dutch team and other boffins examining the work caution that more GPS locators need to be attached to the bedrock in order to refine the results.

For those who'd like to know more, a statement issued yesterday by Vermeersen's university is here. The new research can be read here by subscribers to Nature Geoscience, and analysis of it by independent expert boffins likewise here. ®


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agwhoax; fud; liargore; scaretactics

1 posted on 09/07/2010 5:16:17 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: cogitator

Ping.


2 posted on 09/07/2010 5:17:02 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind
The previous estimates are worse than we thought.
3 posted on 09/07/2010 5:19:41 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

When I was a kid, I thought they named it Greenland to be facetious. Was years later that I learned it actually used to be green.


4 posted on 09/07/2010 5:24:28 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: ConservativeMind

The enviro-wackos see only negative while I see positive of a warmer Greenland.

1) Longer growing seasons able to feed MORE people.

2) Drilling for oil in arctic regions becomes much cheaper

3) Ability to explore more natural resources that were hidden under the ice cap.

...but I sometimes forget that enviro-wackos are not stable people.


5 posted on 09/07/2010 5:24:53 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Le Chien Rouge; ConservativeMind

Personally, I’d rather NOT have global cooling but, I’ll deal with it as it comes.


6 posted on 09/07/2010 5:27:45 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: ConservativeMind; rdl6989; livius; DollyCali; IrishCatholic; meyer; SteamShovel; Desdemona; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

7 posted on 09/07/2010 5:42:30 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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To: steelyourfaith

Thank you!


8 posted on 09/07/2010 5:55:03 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: ConservativeMind
What? The Gorebots were wrong? Who knew? LOLOLOL

What a bunch of lying morons.
9 posted on 09/07/2010 6:06:48 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: steelyourfaith

Where’s Al Gore on this?

Screwing around again?

Raping someone?


10 posted on 09/07/2010 6:31:44 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: ConservativeMind
"2003-2009 - equivalent to a global sea-level rise of over 4mm"

So at this rate the sea level will rise 12 inches in 461 years, que the ohnos's.........

11 posted on 09/07/2010 6:32:55 AM PDT by sniper63 (I am the leader of the TEA Party, I, myself am the leader of me, myself for I am the TEA Party!)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
1) Longer growing seasons able to feed MORE people.

More food won't be necessary. Our betters want a one child (or less) policy, since there are already waayyy too many of us. Failing that, look for forced sterilization as a mandatory part of "health care". They'll probably hide it in a vaccine.
12 posted on 09/07/2010 6:53:02 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Cheers, Robert.


13 posted on 09/07/2010 7:44:06 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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To: nmh

Al has moved on, inspiring EcoTerrorists again. ;-)


14 posted on 09/07/2010 7:45:26 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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Bookmark


15 posted on 09/07/2010 8:07:50 AM PDT by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: ConservativeMind
More FUD - Climate shifts 'not to blame' for African civil wars

You have to wonder if CO2 levels are next.

16 posted on 09/07/2010 8:28:37 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: ConservativeMind
The money quote:
“The original GRACE-based estimates indicated as much as 1,500 billion tonnes ice loss just from Greenland in the period 2003-2009 - equivalent to a global sea-level rise of over 4mm on its own. However it has since become clear that these numbers weren't properly corrected for the phenomenon of “rebound”, where the Earth's crust rises as ice is removed. GPS precise-location devices fixed to bedrock outcrops in Antarctica showed this last year, but nobody was sure how bad the errors were. “

To paraphrase Twain, We knew they were wrong and now they’re haggling over the degree of error.

17 posted on 09/07/2010 8:39:25 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: ConservativeMind
The money quote:
“The original GRACE-based estimates indicated as much as 1,500 billion tonnes ice loss just from Greenland in the period 2003-2009 - equivalent to a global sea-level rise of over 4mm on its own. However it has since become clear that these numbers weren't properly corrected for the phenomenon of “rebound”, where the Earth's crust rises as ice is removed. GPS precise-location devices fixed to bedrock outcrops in Antarctica showed this last year, but nobody was sure how bad the errors were. “

To paraphrase Twain, We knew they were wrong and now they’re haggling over the degree of error.

18 posted on 09/07/2010 8:53:30 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
...but I sometimes forget that enviro-wackos are not stable hate people.

Fixed it for ya!

19 posted on 09/07/2010 9:03:12 AM PDT by liberte
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