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To: markomalley
I used to think that the abortion industry were simply capitalists who allowed their greed to override their humanity....maybe it was just feminism run amok....I’ve come to believe that it’s more than that....-

It much more than that - it's DEMONIC - a practice as old as the ancient Pagan god Moloch from the gates of Hell.

7 posted on 09/06/2010 6:13:55 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73; wagglebee; NYer; little jeremiah; narses; cpforlife.org

You want to talk demonic, check out this old thread: 35 years pass, but not debate (clergy bless new Planned Parenthood clinic ) Rabbi blows Shofar:

SCHENECTADY -- To commemorate Tuesday's 35th anniversary of the Supreme Court ruling that affirmed a woman's right to an abortion, clergy blessed this city's new Planned Parenthood clinic in a ceremony dubbed "On Sacred Ground."

"Today is more than about the building and about bricks and mortar," Planned Parenthood spokeswoman Linda Scharf said. "It's a blessing to demonstrate the support of the clergy."

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If that is not bad enough, how about a description of abortion as a sacrifice to Artemis:

“I have drawn inspiration throughout this book from a guiding image, the Artemis of Greek mythology (known to the Romans as Diana, the Huntress). She is an untamed Goddess, a champion of what we would think of today as ecological values … her myth is full of what appears to be the same kinds of contradictions that abound in considerations of abortion. Artemis is both protector of wild animals and a hunter who kills them with unerring aim…” (p. 1)

“The same goddess thus offers protection and also death to women, children, and animals. Why these apparent contradictions … personified in a feminine divinity? Is it a way of saying that a woman’s protective power cannot function properly if she does not also possess full power, namely, the power over death as well as life? Her image belongs to us as well as to antiquity, because like all fundamental images of the human experience, which C.G. Jung called ‘archetypes,’ she never really ages but reappears in different forms and different symbols … She encourages us to become more aware of the power of death, its inescapable nature, and its necessary role in a living ecology. Abortion is about love, life, and death.” (p. 2)

“The collective unconscious has always used different ways to reduce the population when resources and space are lacking or when the social climate deteriorates.” (p. 26)

“Artemis had a reputation for liking bloody sacrifices, including human ones … a practice that has given paganism such a bad name…. The story of Artemis claiming Iphigena as a sacrifice can be told and understood in more than one way … in one, Iphigenia is a victim, offered in sacrifice on the altar of Artemis; in the other Iphigenia becomes a heroine, and sacrifice takes on a different meaning. Since abortion is a kind of sacrifice, I believe an exploration of this myth may open up fresh avenues of thought.” (p. 34)

“From a pagan point of view, it is quite stupid and even absurd to sacrifice a mother for the sake of a newborn, because the child obviously needs her … Artemis, who personifies respect for animal life, accepts the necessity of the hunt, but only if the rules and the absolving rituals are observed. In most Goddess religions a similar reasoning is applied to the fetus and the newborn. It is morally acceptable that a woman who gives life may also destroy life under certain circumstances …” (p. 53)

“Our attitudes toward abortion are subconsciously stamped by Judeo-Christian values, even among those people who consider themselves completely liberated from them. We are now on the threshold of a liberalization of attitude toward abortion in many ways comparable to the freeing up of sexual attitudes thirty years ago.” (p. 5)

“Abraham’s bloodthirsty God had been encouraging human sacrifice long enough for the patriarch to believe that the offering of his only son would be pleasing to Him … When he restrains Abraham’s arm, Jehovah states that he doesn’t want to be honored in that way any more: this scene marks an evolution in Judeo-Christian mythology.” (p. 37)

“Paganism was discredited by the image of an innocent child being dragged by evil pagans to an altar to be sacrificed to a cruel female Goddess, as if God hadn’t also demanded the sacrifice and crucifixion of his only son.” (p. 41)

“Judeo-Christian mythology has had the major influence on our Western culture for over two thousand years, providing the ideas, values, and symbolic images. Can we erase two thousand years of monotheistic influence by dropping all religious practice and declaring ourselves free of our parents’ faith? Certainly not as has been proved by our sudden awakening to ecological values. We’re only beginning to understand how a religion which strips nature of its sacredness so as to place everything sacred in one God (whose realm is not of this world) can be dangerous to trees, animals, oceans, forests, and body-consciousness, all of which were considered receptacles of the divine in polytheistic antiquity.” (p. 4)

“…there is more than one way to define morality, human dignity, children’s rights, and the collective responsibility for life and death issues. It is also clear that all of this is intimately connected with global ecology.” (p. 6)

“…we must constantly monitor the values attached to shame, as we educate the next generation, so that it can be put aside when it no longer expresses our ideals… “When an abortion is necessary, not only should there be no shame but there should be a new consensus that to have a child who cannot adequately be cared for is shameful.” (p.106)

“It is not immoral to choose abortion; it is simply another kind of morality, a pagan one. It is time to stop being defensive about it, time to point an accusatory finger at the other camp and denounce its own immoral stance.” (p. 56)

“As Artemis might kill a wounded animal rather than allow it to limp along miserably, so a mother wishes to spare the child a painful destiny.” (p. 56)

“… men who decide whether or not to kill in war then dare to talk about crime and murder when a woman sacrifices a fetus no bigger than a raisin and less conscious than a chicken…. The beings sacrificed in abortions do not suffer as do the victims of war and ecological disaster…. War is sanctified … by our religious leaders. But let a woman decide to abort a fetus that doesn’t even have the neurological apparatus to register suffering, and people are shocked.” (p. 25)

“It’s rare for a woman to choose abortion because in some way she dislikes the fetus. She sacrifices it for the sake of something she judges at this moment to be more important, whether it be her existing children … or her own physical, economic, or psychological survival, or the fate of the planet.” (p. 95)

“This same quality allows us to visualize a world of increasing respect for children, a world in which one can occasionally resort to abortion when it is necessary to sacrifice the fetus to a higher cause, namely, the love of children and the refusal to see them suffer.” (p. 107)

“Some values are worth the sacrifice … Abortion always has been and continues to be another way of choosing death over life.” (p. 51)

“… the return of the ancient Goddess Artemis invites us to imagine a new allocation of life and death powers between men and women, and allocation that allows men to appreciate the cost of a life and women to make decisions based on their mother-knowledge.” (p. 27)

“One must preserve in one’s self … an intact strength, inviolable and radically feminine; this is the Artemesian part of the anima which guards the untamed zone of our psyche, without which we risk becoming over-domesticated human beings, too easily touchable.” (p. 107)

“Obviously, everyone has a right to his or her religious beliefs, but what if mine are Pagan?” (p. 57)

“Our culture needs new rituals as well as laws to restore abortion to its sacred dimension, which is both terrible and necessary.” (p. 92)

“Abortion is a sacrifice to Artemis. Abortion as a sacrament for the gift of life to remain pure.” (p. 107)

And there are plenty of other examples.

10 posted on 09/06/2010 6:25:54 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Psalm 73

Yes, from the very pits of hell.

11 posted on 09/06/2010 6:27:33 AM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Psalm 73

There is written record of an eye witness of worship of Moloch about 9th cent. It was an iron statue with a hollowed out back. A fire in that hole was burned till the statue glowed red. The statue had hands in the front in which babies were lain. As the child fried, the people believed the babies smiled. Doctors today know it was a response to the nerves in the neck searing. I have been horrified by this practice ever since I read about it.


14 posted on 09/06/2010 6:35:59 AM PDT by healy61
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