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To: Windflier
No, Drew. No one's rejecting liberalism, the Democrats are going to win even MORE seats in Congress this fall, and everybody just loves Obama.

The premise of this article is one that states liberals are losing the culture wars. Look around and tell me this isn't ridiculous.

Conservatives can prevail in November and thwart Obama's agenda and that in itself would be a good thing but to believe this will roll back decades of liberalism is delusional. It will only slow the progression of liberalism. America today is culturally more liberal than it was twenty years ago. And twenty years before that. And twenty years before that. You get the picture. Liberalism has been allowed to slowly encroach on society since the days of the New Deal and this is where we are now and even when conservatives had held majorities in Washington, rolling back this liberalism has not happened. They've only slowed it.

You speak of an America that returns to the values of our Founding Fathers. This travels way past optimistic and enters the realm of delusional. An America capable or willing to do such that would never have voted Obama in the first place. Understanding this, I will raise my family the best I can while realizing it will be up to me, not Washington, not American culture, to instill the values I want my children to have.

65 posted on 09/04/2010 10:08:10 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
The premise of this article is one that states liberals are losing the culture wars. Look around and tell me this isn't ridiculous.

I'm looking around me, Drew, and what I see is a building resistance to the destructive creep of liberal rot, everywhere I look.

That this resistance hasn't yet resulted in a wholesale restoration of the America we once knew, isn't cause for gloom. On the contrary, it should cause all of us to experience restored hope in the future of our country.

The push back against the progressive left's agenda isn't imaginary. It's happening in the hearts and minds of millions upon millions of your fellow citizens. Every motion or action begins in the mind. This is true for every historical turning of cultures. These turnings begin in the minds of millions of people, and eventually express themselves in real societal change.

You've seen the people's collective thoughts expressed in the explosion of the Tea Party movement, and in the rapidly declining fortunes of the left-Democrat party. This will continue, and in time, will express itself in concrete changes to the liberal status quo.

What's occurring under the surface is much bigger than any election. It's a widespread repudiation of the last 100-odd years of leftward creep, and the throwing out of our country's timeless American ideals.

Politics and politicians are following this trend - not leading it. The power of propulsion is coming from the people, just as it always has. What you're witnessing now, is only the beginning of a massive, long-term shift in the direction of America.

72 posted on 09/04/2010 10:54:10 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Drew68

Defeatist.

And you post on a leftist website.

“Change for the worse is inevitable. Just accept it.”

Defeatism. Not how wars are won.

Usually defeatists call themselves “realists”. Just like Screwtape did.


75 posted on 09/04/2010 11:03:52 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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