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To: donna

Nope, and I have no idea whether or not this militia was plotting to murder policemen.

But Jesus also said an armed man keeps his house (against robbers), and there is a point, I think, where Jesus would support a right of self-defense, even against government agents, and even the use of lethal force in self-defense. I don’t think we’re there yet.


23 posted on 09/02/2010 5:33:17 PM PDT by Buchal ("Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .")
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To: Buchal

I think that your speculation about what Jesus might have said is less interesting than reviewing what he actually said.

What is made clear is that never, in Scripture, does Jesus command the disciples to draw their swords, and He rebukes Peter and heals the servant on the one known occasion when Peter, not waiting for Jesus’s answer as to whether swords should be used, draws his to kill the servant (the sword used was not our western broadsword, and thus, kills were made by bringing the blade down upon the victim to cleave the skull in two; Peter is apparently unskilled with a blade and misses, cutting off a piece of the ear.

Nowhere else in Scripture are the disciples commanded to carry weapons, nor do they command the first century Christians to take up swords.


28 posted on 09/02/2010 8:03:49 PM PDT by Immerito
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To: Buchal

“But Jesus also said an armed man keeps his house (against robbers), “

As part of a logical argument that He cannot derive His power against Beelzebub. Context is key.


29 posted on 09/02/2010 8:07:50 PM PDT by Immerito
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To: Buchal

As part of a logical argument that He cannot derive His power from Beelzebub. Context is key.


30 posted on 09/02/2010 8:08:22 PM PDT by Immerito
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