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Psychiatric exam sought for militia member
UPI ^ | 9/2/2010

Posted on 09/02/2010 10:55:39 AM PDT by markomalley

DETROIT, Sept. 2 (UPI) -- A member of a Michigan-based Christian militia group called Hutaree might not be competent to stand trial on federal charges of conspiracy, prosecutors say.

Federal prosecutors want Jacob Ward to undergo a psychiatric examination, the Detroit Free Press said Thursday.

In a motion filed in U.S. District Court in Detroit, prosecutors said there is doubt as to whether Ward is competent to stand trial on charges that members of the Lenawee County-based group conspired to overthrow the U.S. government and attack local and federal law enforcement officers.

"This belief is based upon statements made by the defendant regarding perceived problems with the Huron, Ohio, Police Department, and his claimed relationship with a foreign national allegedly in the custody of the Central Intelligence Agency," prosecutors said in court documents.

Ward, 33, of Huron, Ohio, and several others were arrested in March and charged with plotting to overthrow the U.S. government and attempting to use weapons of mass destruction.

Ward has been free on bond and his attorney agreed to the evaluation, the newspaper said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: jacobward
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1 posted on 09/02/2010 10:55:40 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

This is certainly the strangest story.

Haven’t read hardly anything about it lately.

What has happened? Are all these people still in jail? Did they ever really do anything at all?


2 posted on 09/02/2010 11:04:32 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: markomalley

There is no such thing as a Christian militia.


3 posted on 09/02/2010 11:06:34 AM PDT by donna (Pornography can reach out and snatch a kid out of any house today. - Ted Bundy)
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To: markomalley
So far the Hutaree haven't done a thing and the Fibbies haven't figured out what it is they were really up to.

At the same time James T. Lee was getting ready to capture and hold hostage the DIscovery building in Bethesday MD.

James was obviously smarter than the Hutaree crowd. First of all he used the Algore litany to 'splain his militancy.

If anyone thinks this isn't a lesson to other nutball groups in this country............. they'll all be doing this now since it got James inside, with bombs, and a gun, and a whole big bunch of publicity!

The Hutaree guy here is going in for a nutcase evaluation.

A questions ~ are FBI agents competent?

4 posted on 09/02/2010 11:08:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The discovery center is in Silver Spring, MD, not Bethesda.


5 posted on 09/02/2010 11:18:19 AM PDT by BigGaloot
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To: donna

Re: “No such thing as a Christian militia” (Luke 22:35-38):

Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered.

He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’[a]; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.”

The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.” “That is enough,” he replied.


6 posted on 09/02/2010 11:19:16 AM PDT by Buchal ("Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .")
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To: BigGaloot
That's fine. They're a "business" and have multiple addresses ~ PO Box in Bethesda (maybe several of them for various purposes), street address of the building, firm addresses for each tenant, firm address for Discovery Communications, and that is at Discovery Communications 7110 45th St Chevy Chase, MD; 8045 Kennett St Silver Spring, MD; 40 W Gude Dr Rockville, MD;10701 Ardnave Pl Potomac, MD; and no doubt many others!

So, just darn.

7 posted on 09/02/2010 11:35:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Buchal

You think that means Jesus wanted us to organize and plot to murder policemen?


8 posted on 09/02/2010 11:36:14 AM PDT by donna (Pornography can reach out and snatch a kid out of any house today. - Ted Bundy)
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To: donna

No one said that, but your post seemed to indicate that a proto-military group, such as a militia, couldn’t be made up of true Christians.

I would suggest you read up on the history of the early Church, the Theban Legion and Thomas Aquinas in particular before holding that position.

In the meanwhile, if that is not what you meant, please clarify your position.


9 posted on 09/02/2010 11:48:01 AM PDT by paladin1_dcs
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To: Buchal; nmh

It’s information like this that makes me worry that as these boys grow up, they will welcome Shariah Law with open arms. All because their mothers deserve to be punished.


10 posted on 09/02/2010 11:48:10 AM PDT by donna (Pornography can reach out and snatch a kid out of any house today. - Ted Bundy)
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To: donna

Oops - somehow I posted this on the wrong thread.


11 posted on 09/02/2010 11:49:29 AM PDT by donna (Pornography can reach out and snatch a kid out of any house today. - Ted Bundy)
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To: markomalley
Odd that in this case it is the prosecution that is questioning the mental capacity of the defendant. I guess there's a first for everything!

PROPAGANDA-PING!

12 posted on 09/02/2010 11:49:56 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: donna

No one said that, but your post seemed to indicate that a proto-military group, such as a militia, couldn’t be made up of true Christians.

I would suggest you read up on the history of the early Church, the Theban Legion and Thomas Aquinas in particular before holding that position.

In the meanwhile, if that is not what you meant, please clarify your position.


13 posted on 09/02/2010 11:50:16 AM PDT by paladin1_dcs
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To: donna

No one said that, but your post seemed to indicate that a proto-military group, such as a militia, couldn’t be made up of true Christians.

I would suggest you read up on the history of the early Church, the Theban Legion and Thomas Aquinas in particular before holding that position.

In the meanwhile, if that is not what you meant, please clarify your position.


14 posted on 09/02/2010 11:50:30 AM PDT by paladin1_dcs
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To: markomalley

Muslims, Latin Gang members and Black perps are always “youths, militants, teens or young men”. Any suspicious Anglo is “Christian, separatist, Nazi, far-Right, extremist”.

The Left loves to manipulate language.


15 posted on 09/02/2010 11:57:05 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: paladin1_dcs
your post seemed to indicate that a proto-military group, such as a militia, couldn’t be made up of true Christians.

That's not what I tried to say, LOL. The word militia has a meaning in the Constitution. We can have a Michigan State Militia, but not a Christian Militia. This was just a terrorist group that the media is trying to call Christian.

16 posted on 09/02/2010 12:01:42 PM PDT by donna (Pornography can reach out and snatch a kid out of any house today. - Ted Bundy)
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To: markomalley
"...his claimed relationship with a foreign national allegedly in the custody of the Central Intelligence Agency,"

This basically means that anyone on DU would walk.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

17 posted on 09/02/2010 12:06:39 PM PDT by The Comedian
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To: donna

Ah, I understand what you were trying to say now. I still would disagree with you, since a militia doesn’t require the approval of a branch of government (remember, the militia is the people resisting the oppression of the government), but I do understand what you’re trying to say.

I also have to wonder if they were really terrorists or if there’s more to the story here. Remember, we only know what the media tells us in this case and do you really trust the MSM to tell the truth?


18 posted on 09/02/2010 12:08:10 PM PDT by paladin1_dcs
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To: donna

“This was just a terrorist group that the media is trying to call Christian.”

I would say that this is just a group that the government and the media are trying to call Terrorists and Christians


19 posted on 09/02/2010 12:08:12 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: paladin1_dcs; Ratman83

Something funny did go on here. The informer was a Muslim, Matt Savino, from another militia.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/20165/hmmm-why-wasnt-this-michigan-militia-raided-by-the-fbi/


20 posted on 09/02/2010 12:42:23 PM PDT by donna (Pornography can reach out and snatch a kid out of any house today. - Ted Bundy)
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