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To: Leisler

Yes, I know we do still have some manufacturing in the United States. Look, the trade deficit with China has been in the neighborhood of $750 billion dollars yearly. That’s just the trade deficit. Total trade with China is much more than that.

Do you honestly think moving more than $750 billion dollars in manufacturing off our shores had no negative impact?

We’re talking about $750 billion dollars that would have been paid out in salaries, supported household loans, supported vehicle loans, flowed through super markets, clothing hardware auto parts and other stores.

And each step of the way that more than $750 billion would have been spurring more financial transactions.

Think of the tax revenues alone. I know we don’t like taxes as a Conservative, but when it comes to our schools, local police and fire departments, we actually do.

Have wages gone up, or has there been an absolute wage stagnation?

Look, free trade sounds great. I like the idea of reasoned trade, but with anything in life that is good, too much of it can actually be bad.

I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but if I couldn’t support staying in bed with my wife 24/7/365, there has to be a grain of truth in the idea there can actually be a down-side to too much free trade too.


136 posted on 09/01/2010 10:51:45 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think our trade deficit with China is in the neighborhood of $250 billion. I you’re planning on making your numbers up, try to be little more accurate.


142 posted on 09/01/2010 11:00:44 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: DoughtyOne
I know we don’t like taxes as a Conservative, but when it comes to our schools, local police and fire departments, we actually do.

I don't support the bureaucracies of police, fire departments or schools.

I belive in protecting myself and my property, and those that have social ties to me. Police interfere with that. I want private, for fee, fire suppression companies.

I want all government schools abolished. The very notion of government warping, shaping, guiding young minds is repellent. Private school, religions school, home school.

Anyways, we give the Chines ever worthless dollars, and they give us stuff. We've done this since the Indians traded land for worthless glass beads, mirrors and junk guns.

147 posted on 09/01/2010 11:14:37 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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