Posted on 08/27/2010 12:28:43 AM PDT by neverdem
Dont give up...conservatives are winning batlles left and right..keep the call going to the RNC the senate and house re election committees and dont mince words. Give em hell!
Blah Blah Blah!
Sis boom bah!
They are busted.
When McCain talks about amnesty he must be aware of the effect it will have on political demographics, but HE DOESN'T CARE!
Mehlman/Wallace/Schmidt are holding a gay marriage event next month.
What the heck are they up to? Right before the elections? Are they trying to help Dems win?
Sure looks that way.
Is there a Republican Primary in 23?
It sounds like Doheny isn’t as bad on the issues as Dede.
If there’s a primary, and there should be, right, where, presumably, Hoffmann runs against Doheny, shouldn’t the winner of the Primary run as the Republican nominee and the loser just not run?
There were special circumstances last time around to not support the Republican. This time, there are no special circumstances.
If you are an establishment Republican who views politics as an occupation, a business, your object is not to wage political crusades but to lucratively farm the political landscape. In other words, you want the status quo to prevail, you want the game to be played within the boundaries, you want business as usual. Above all, you do not want anything to interfere with your principal business which is lobbying, and politics is but the smarmy, inconvenient, and tedious dues one must pay to keep the lobbying going.
So the object is not to be a winner but to be a player.
It seems to me that if you consider a John McCain, his incentive is to be a player out of ego, a conception of himself and his own self-worth, rather than for the pecuniary advantage he might gain. I think he made that commitment in the Hanoi Hilton when he was finally broken. As for the money, his marriage took care of that ambition. I believe him when he said he does not know how many houses he owns, that is not his focus.
So John McCain wants to be a player out of patriotic reasons, as misguided as they have proved to be in application. He can rationalize amnesty and the effects that will have on demographics and on conservatism as a righteous reaction to racism. Subconsciously, he calculates, or assumes, that he will always be able to ride the wave and stay ahead of the demographics, thus remaining a player.
Pleonasm.
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I read a post the other day that basically said that Republican leaders usually prefer being the minority party. It takes more guts to say no and stand on principle. They don’t want to deal with the heat of nominating and supporting true conservatives.
I actually had some hope in 1994 after the elections. Look at the ones who sold us out. Dole, Lott, and Newt for starters. My states GOP Primary resulted in a RINO's RINO getting the GOP nod over the proved Conservative by voting record Lt. Governor. Some here in FR were shilling for the RINO actually just like some still think the sun rises and sets on Juan McCain.
In my lifetime there has been but one non Rockefeller GOP POTUS and under him we all prospered. People have their hopes built up high for this November. Unless policy of the GOP is changed simply voting out the DEMs will accomplish nothing just as the two house GOP Majority for nearly 12 years accomplished nothing.
I'm sick and tired of the GOP laying the failures of the party on the DEMs. If one man could take on a two house opposing majority as a Traditional Republican President and get a good portion of his policies through how come the GOP can't get it's act together? Why? Because a Rockefeller Republican is worse than a Liberal DEM in my eyes. They stop all hope of an opposing party to liberalism and socialism and do it solely to line their stinking greedy power happy Liberal elitist pockets.
That, my FRiend, is a Hallmark Hall of Fame post. Very well spoken. It is the most succinct, most economically and powerfully explanatory epitome of the modern, dysfunctional, gangrenous "moderate" wing of the Republican Party and its RNC subsidiary (witness Ken Mehlman's "coming out" party) that I've ever seen.
Thank you.
If you see their actual goals and objectives as those of political rainmakers and lobbyists-manque', as explained by our FRiend nathanbedford above, then their preference for minority status is completely explained.
Their game isn't to do anything; it's to avert things, things they can claim a credit for, from their grateful employers on "K" Street.
Discussion?
The essence of truth. The establishment Republican is in it for the opportunity to impact legislation in favor of his patrons -- thus earning his keep.
Things like principle don't sully his outlook.
The standard Democrat politician is no different -- though perhaps more egregious in their corruption. However, their leadership is also driven by overriding principle -- in a way that establishment Republicans are not.
The leadership sees that their minions are appropriately rewarded with largesse, but only after the higher cause of socialism has been served.
In this context, a few standard-issue GOP politicians could be digested -- if there was a stronger Republican leadership, more committed to conservative principles.
Our shortfall is in conservative leadership, not necessarily in conservative numbers.
cut off their left arm.
cut off their left arm.
Beatdown/death-message for social conservatives. Stay home. Don't vote. Nobody wants you voting. You are no longer part of the body politic. Homosexuals are, they have money -- but you aren't.
I guess the real “issue” is: whom did you support last November after Dede dropped out. Doheny supported Dede and then Dede and he supported DEM Owens after Dede dropped out 3 days before the election. This gave Owens the victory and led to ObamaCare passing.
Owens said in his campaign that he opposed the Senate Bill and then changed his mind 2 days after his election victory.
So Doheny is DOA for conservatives. Primary is 9/14.
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