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EPA Considering (planning) Ban on All Traditional (lead) Ammunition
NSSF ^ | 8/25/10

Posted on 08/25/2010 10:46:49 AM PDT by pabianice

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To: rahbert

actually lead 2,4,6-trinitroresorcinate


41 posted on 08/25/2010 12:00:00 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: pabianice

No lead in ammunition?


42 posted on 08/25/2010 12:01:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah (.Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: Nachoman
I have enough on hand for the Civil War that would seems inevitable erupt.
43 posted on 08/25/2010 12:01:53 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: OneWingedShark
I’d like to ask the question “What is the distinction between ‘Statute’ and ‘Law’?”

None.

You see, there’s a state statute in my state which prohibits firearms on campus (with the exception of inside personal vehicles), and yet there is also a section of the State constitution which reads a follows:

I think maybe some states treat all state laws as part of or equivalent to their state constitution... but ignoring that, of course we've got the same issue at the federal level -- clearly unconstitutional laws that the government persists in enforcing. And because our judicial system is thoroughly corrupt, if you violate such a law and claim as your defense that it is unconstitutional, you'll still almost certainly lose in spite of being right.

Which, in turn, is just the situation the 2nd Amendment is made for.

44 posted on 08/25/2010 12:06:43 PM PDT by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: pabianice
CCI ammo does not work on most semi-auto .22 pistols anyway...

Huh? Are you talking about just the "green" CCI ammo? CCI Stinger is the only ammo that my Ruger MKIII will reliably feed, and my Smith&Wesson 22A will happily eat CCI ammo as well (and anything else I feed it; the smithy isn't picky).

45 posted on 08/25/2010 12:07:44 PM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
That would be the end of .22 rimfire.

Yep. Best critter killer around....both 4 legged and 2 legged (if you suppress it)

46 posted on 08/25/2010 12:08:03 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: pabianice
None of the links in the document work.

Here is the NRA response:
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6004

47 posted on 08/25/2010 12:09:14 PM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: pabianice
Cass Sunstein (regulation czar) advocates using regulation to gain control and progress agenda. Bypass the normal channels of government.
48 posted on 08/25/2010 12:09:42 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: 556x45
Good observation: there is the Consent of the Governed which is entirely voluntary. However, there is a small problem that arises: what is it when one person withdraws their consent? (Sedition perhaps?) Two people? Three? At what point can you consider the government invalid?

It is for this reason that such a test, as the proposed State Constitution vs State Statute resolution, would be useful. If the State Constitution is ruled against it would give indisputable proof [to the people] that the government is rouge and that they should, therefore, withdraw their own consent.
The spread of such non-consent would, as you observed, cause the government to "force people to consent." Hopefully, the use of such fore would then only cause more people to withdraw their own consent. (There is the small problem that the American people, as a whole, exhibit the signs of Stockholm Syndrome towards their Government.)

49 posted on 08/25/2010 12:10:38 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Cheetahcat

Unfortunately, the NRA sold conservatives out when they backed the democrats plan to twart the recent Supreme Court decision on campaign finances.


50 posted on 08/25/2010 12:10:47 PM PDT by MotherRedDog
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To: fireforeffect

Tungsten core inside a teflon capsule with a little dab of epoxy to hold it together. AKA: The KTW bullet.

If I remember correctly, the .357 mag version will blow through 6 bullet-proof vests. Makes for some amusing shots....


51 posted on 08/25/2010 12:13:27 PM PDT by libertyhoundusnr
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To: MotherRedDog

BINGO!
Don’t be counting on NRA, they turned into gubmint money hounds.


52 posted on 08/25/2010 12:21:05 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Let the other side get all wee-wee'd up, Remember come November)
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To: OneWingedShark

“I’d like to ask the question “What is the distinction between ‘Statute’ and ‘Law’?”

The state statute SHOULD not override your state’s constitution. I would think that for the school-exception to have the same weight as the right to bear, it’d have to be in the constitution as well.

Unfortunately, there are many “unconstitutional” laws and regs out there.

Until you take the case through the supreme court, you’re stuck w/it on the books.

The tyrants know this and abuse their power often in this area.


53 posted on 08/25/2010 12:24:08 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: fireforeffect
Thanks for the link. The NRA’s response was excellent.
54 posted on 08/25/2010 12:29:19 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: MotherRedDog

“Unfortunately, the NRA sold conservatives out when they backed the democrats plan to twart the recent Supreme Court decision on campaign finances.”

This is very bad news then.we have a unelected rouge agency loose calling the shots on every facet of our lives.


55 posted on 08/25/2010 12:33:02 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Sloth

“to ban all traditional ammunition under the Toxic Substance Control Act of 1976, a law in which Congress expressly exempted ammunition.”

No, but toxic, crooked politicians could be banned under the act, right?


56 posted on 08/25/2010 12:34:17 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: FreeStateYank
“to ban all traditional ammunition under the Toxic Substance Control Act of 1976, a law in which Congress expressly exempted ammunition.”

No, but toxic, crooked politicians could be banned under the act, right?


Yes, if one fills them with lead first
57 posted on 08/25/2010 12:52:57 PM PDT by verum ago (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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To: absolootezer0
There are alternates for primers, I think lead styphenate was phased out some time back.
58 posted on 08/25/2010 1:12:14 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Cheetahcat
Where's the NRA on this?

Perhaps they can convince Harry Reid to oppose this move.

59 posted on 08/25/2010 1:25:58 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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To: pabianice

Plenty of lead in the ground here in Missouri. Y’all come on down. We’ll have is a diggin’, smeltin’, and castin’ party. I’ll bring the beer and schnitzel.


60 posted on 08/25/2010 1:27:01 PM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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