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We were just told a week or two ago that Odumbo's arrest numbers were more than Bushes when it came to illegals....guess it was just another lie.
1 posted on 08/23/2010 6:21:27 PM PDT by Doogle
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To: Doogle

Hate to defend Obama, but this is not a bad approach. Making an example of the employers who hire illegals is much more effective that arresting individual illegals (and letting the employers off the hook).


2 posted on 08/23/2010 6:23:41 PM PDT by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: Doogle

Barry and his comrades were using Bush’s “numbers” and claiming them as their own. Damn liars. Since the muslim rose to power, those numbers have fallen off dramatically.


3 posted on 08/23/2010 6:24:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Taliban!)
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To: Doogle
Under Obama, employer audits are up 50 percent, fines have tripled to almost $3 million and the number of executives arrested is slightly up over the Bush administration.

Rather, over the last year of the Bush administration. Bush's record for immigration enforcement during his first seven years was abysmal. Even Bill Clinton did a better job enforcing the immigration laws than Bush.

7 posted on 08/23/2010 6:56:07 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: Doogle

You wanted “Change” America.

How do you like it?


9 posted on 08/23/2010 7:07:15 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Doogle
So audits are up and fines have nearly tripled. This is good, employers won't hire illegals if there's a good chance it will cost them money. And illegals won't come unless they can find work.

But what about the illegals already here? ICE still has a habit of simply releasing illegals, who then change identities, forge new papers, and rejoin the workforce. It's very possible they'll get caught again, and their employers fined again (and again, and again).

Pretty good scam, huh? Why fix a problem when you can profit from it? The concept sounds familiar...

16 posted on 08/23/2010 7:30:31 PM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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FYI --on the same topic -something I looked into recently and posted on another thread:

It looks like we see a slow and deliberate fundamental transformation taking place right before our eyes by this administration as it subverts the law and its task of enforcement by reinterpreting its mission and changing policies to fit its own goals. Plainly put, this administration seeks to keep a certain demographic of illegal aliens, useful idiots beholden to them, in the country as long as possible --this effectively equates to back door amnesty.

Case in point: ICE: Detention and Policy Reforms

Detention Reform
Last year, ICE detained more than 300,000 aliens. Recognizing that the purpose of immigration detention is not punitive and the importance of providing our detainees with quality care, ICE is engaged in a broad detention reform effort. This includes creating a civil detention system that reduces transfers, maximizes access to counsel, visitation, and recreation, improves conditions of confinement, and ensures quality medical, mental health, and dental care. ICE already has taken concrete steps to improve the immigration detention system and is engaged in a serious and sustained effort that will result in additional reforms and actions in the near future.

Review the Accomplishments

Policy Reform

ICE has a broad mandate that includes protecting and securing the borders through immigration enforcement at the border, ports of entry, and inside the United States. Finite resources require ICE to prioritize our enforcement efforts to best protect the security of our communities and the integrity of the immigration system. This includes focusing on criminal aliens, fugitives, and recent border violators. To ensure our practice aligns with these broad priorities, ICE has recently issued a number of policies including one intended to reduce the risk that we place United States citizens in proceedings or detention, a policy to refocus fugitive operations, and a new memorandum of agreement in an effort to ensure the 287(g) program aligns with ICE priorities. These and other key reforms promote the smart and effective enforcement of immigration laws. Additional policy reforms are coming soon.

Summary of Policy Reforms

Request for Public Comment on Immigration Detainer Policy

ICE has drafted an immigration detainer policy to engage all interested stakeholders and solicit a broad range of views and comments. This is not a final policy and is disseminated solely to collect feedback. ICE is interested in a concrete assessment of how this draft policy, if issued and implemented, would affect the agency's law enforcement partners, the operation of the criminal justice system, communities and individuals. Please respond with your comments to ICEDetainerComments@dhs.gov by Thursday, September 30, 2010.

ICE Draft Immigration Detainer Policy (PDF Document)

One obvious question is -where is the media reporting on this?

Another obvious question: Is it not counter intuitive and hypocritical to pursue a policy that on the one hand purports, "the purpose of immigration detention is not punitive"; YET, on the other hand as evidenced, ICE is more and more focusing on ONLY detaining convicted criminals -this concept further promoted in the latest "Draft Immigration Detainer Policy" which will so much as command local law enforcement agencies to release all illegal aliens discovered during traffic stops UNLESS they are convicted of felonies or demonstrate an immediate danger.

What is the purpose of an "immigration" detention policy that is supposedly not punitive yet is solely premised upon looking the other way regarding illegal alien status UNLESS there is a criminal conviction? A policy of enforcement that is NOT premised simply upon discovery of illegal status is a policy that subverts the law. Here we see the Executive who would be King -the rule of man as sole authority, ignoring the rule of law by ignoring the Legislature and denying justice under the law by eliminating the role of the Judiciary...

Does 2 + 2 = 5 now?

36 posted on 08/23/2010 8:11:18 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Doogle

I agree with going after the employers that hire illegals. Ratchet up the pressure on them and make it harder for the illegal to find employment.


38 posted on 08/23/2010 8:42:20 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Doogle

Audit from the top down, starting with the UOTUS.


39 posted on 08/23/2010 8:49:33 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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Ping!


42 posted on 08/23/2010 11:32:11 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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Thanks Doogle.
Under Obama, employer audits are up 50 percent, fines have tripled to almost $3 million and the number of executives arrested is slightly up over the Bush administration.

46 posted on 08/24/2010 4:02:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Doogle

Ship them back. Use stimulus money and get a double bang for the buck. They say it can’t be done? I say try it.


50 posted on 08/24/2010 4:58:25 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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