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To: Gilbo_3

Peter brandished his blade for the purpose of killing the high priest’s servant (he was apparently not skilled in the use of the sword, and thus missed the skull, striking off a piece of the ear); he was rebuked for brandishing his blade for that purpose. “Those who live by the sword, die by the sword”, as Christ says in Matthew, prophesying both Peter’s death, and chastising him for his decision.

Were the disciples to arm themselves while traveling on the road to complete their task (missions and discipleship)? Yes. Is that analogous to the present scenario? No.


66 posted on 08/24/2010 9:30:13 PM PDT by Immerito
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To: Immerito
sorry, *defensive* use of arms is not 'living by the sword'...no mention of 'rebuke' in the gospel of Luke [merely informs that the cross must happen], but again the *context* of Matthew is clear in verse 26:53-54...Lord Jesus could summon an army of angels and wouldnt 'miss'...its about the timing and the motives for use of power, be it human steel or divine supernatural power...

again, the command was to arm themselves, for defense, ie two swords 'is enough'...Peters lack of proficiency notwithstanding, if he wasnt meant to use it, why did he have it in the garden, where they were all simpy going to pray ??? Peters was on the verge of going 'offensive' against overwhelming numbers and getting killed w/o fulfilling his future dscipleship...the Lord showed him the difference between Gods Will and human will...

Gods words, Gods Will, cant be altered, only misunderstood and contorted...

likewise, i dont have a need to prove that this particular church has done outreach to every muzzie in the world, you seem to think that *if* theyve done so, it would then be ok for them to turn their backs on the muzzies...

the history of the entire CHRISTian world shows outreach has been tried, and for the most part failed...rabid animals that would blow themselves up over someone elses book are beyond human aid...

The Lord puts the people in place[s] to witness and to receive the call...any muzzies that are on the fence may finally realize that their death cult is evil and finally be enlightened, as well as CHRISTian like yerself that seem to believe that the *religion* of pieces is basically *good*...

blindly walking into a den of wolves and being eaten isnt required by scripture, Lord Jesus repeats the fact over and over again, that 'the world' is dominated by evil...that there are indeed few who are called...we are surrounded and outnumbered, being easy targets aint healthy...

74 posted on 08/25/2010 6:02:06 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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