Rauf: A moderate?

In the Ground Zero mosque debate, de fenders of Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf have pointed out that in 2003 the FBI brought him in to help train its agents -- so how radical could he be?

The first problem is that Rauf's "help" turned out to be worse than worthless. The bigger problem is that the FBI has a rotten record when it comes to identifying moderate Muslims -- as opposed to ones who are happy to feed non-Muslims the pabulum they're willing to swallow.

Start with Rauf and the FBI. He was brought into the New York field office to give at least four sessions of sensitivity training.

Speaking for about two hours each time, "he gave an overview of Islamic culture and some of the differences between what fundamentalist terrorist groups say are the teachings of the Koran and what he believes, as a student of religion, the Koran actually says," FBI New York office spokesman James Margolin told me back then.

For example, Rauf asserted that the Koran "certainly doesn't counsel terrorism, murder or mayhem," Margolin says. And he said terrorists have misinterpreted jihad to mean violent, or armed, struggle against nonbelievers. Rauf assured agents it means internal struggle.

On top of this is the problem of Muslim preachers who speak with forked tongues. Some of the worst:

* Zaid Shakir, who appears in an anti-terror video with eight other “moderate” US imams. Shakir says, in carefully parsed language, that Islam forbids “indiscriminate” violence and the killing of “civilians.”

Killing US soldiers is another story, however, as Shakir allowed in a pre-9/11 sermon on jihad to San Francisco Muslims.

“Islam doesn’t permit us to hijack airplanes filled with civilian people,” he told them privately in 2001. However, “if you hijack an airplane filled with the 82nd Airborne, that’s something else.” He gave his blessing to bombs, too, as long as they don’t hit too many civilians. And civilians are fair game if “there’s a benefit in that.”

“What a great victory it will be for Islam to have this country in the fold and ranks of the Muslims,” sermonized Shakir, who’s been portrayed as a moderate by The New York Times.

* Ali al-Timimi, the noted imam who put on a moderate face in public while secretly plotting against us.

Timimi publicly denounced Islamic violence while privately praising the 9/11 attacks. He even cheered the Columbia space-shuttle disaster as a “good omen.” Timimi, who once enjoyed federal security clearance, is now behind bars for soliciting terror and treason.

* Anwar al-Awlaki, the US-born imam who led Friday prayer in the US Capitol and became the media’s go-to “moderate” spokesman for the Muslim community after 9/11. On the day of the attacks, he told the press: “We’re totally against what the terrorists had done.” Now a federally designated al Qaeda terrorist fugitive, he speaks more honestly to Americans: “9/11 was the answer of the millions of people who suffer from American aggression. You are still unsafe.”

Many Muslim leaders talk about tolerance and interfaith dialogue, but behind our backs they plan our destruction. To deal with the Muslim community, we must deal with its leaders. But based on their track record of dissembling, we can’t go on blindly trusting them.
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Terrific column Scanian. Thanks. The NYP columnists and opinion writers are some of the best in the country. There’s a reason they’re #1 in sales. This won’t help his lordship the mayor.

Here are just a few quotes from the Koran. This is the base of their “religion”. The directives they are given from their “Holy Book”. All Muslims use this as the BASE of what they are to believe and DO. EVERY Muslim must abide by these directives. Can you find anything moderate??

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 8:15-16

Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17

Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory. 9:12-14

The “Religion of Truth” (Islam) must prevail, by force if necessary, over all other religions. 9:33
Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 9:73

Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123

If you refuse to fight for Allah, he will punish you with a painful doom. 48:16

The media, government officials, and even the Churches are complicit in the lies. Only WE THE PEOPLE will be able to protect ourselves with knowledge of truth.

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