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To: Tom Hawks
I've been in Northern WI, MN, UP. And the large urban areas are?

I suggested zap collars. The wolf goes the wrong way, or decides to eat doggies instead of deer, s/he gets zapped.

They're smart. Even coyotes learn to obey traffic signals ~ I've watched one stop at the red. Wait for the green and then look both ways and cross safely.

But coyotes aren't big enough to take down a bunch of deer and won't work in groups. Wolves are big, strong and cooperative. We could begin training them in nearby military enclosures with 20 ft high barbed wire topped fences.

10 posted on 08/21/2010 12:33:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
But coyotes aren't big enough to take down a bunch of deer and won't work in groups. Wolves are big, strong and cooperative. We could begin training them in nearby military enclosures with 20 ft high barbed wire topped fences.

Bzzzt. Wrong. Coyotes can, and do, hunt in packs. They can also take down deer although they usually hung smaller game and also take out domestic animals such as sheep and goats, not to mention cats and dogs. I doubt very seriously if wolves can be taught to hunt on command.

18 posted on 08/21/2010 12:41:54 PM PDT by calex59
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To: muawiyah
But coyotes aren't big enough to take down a bunch of deer and won't work in groups.

Ours are. We have Coyotes that are the size of large dogs. I've seen some that I thought were red Huskies but they were large Coyotes. I'm guessing they weigh 50lbs or more. I have two part Yellow Mountain Curs that weigh 60lbs and the Coyotes appear to be as big as the Curs are. Ours also hunt in packs and make a terrible racket when they are hunting. So far they have never attacked a human but they don't seem to be afraid either. A lot of the Eastern Coyotes are very large and hunt in packs like wolves. I know they do because I've seen them.

38 posted on 08/21/2010 1:25:43 PM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: muawiyah
I suggested zap collars. The wolf goes the wrong way, or decides to eat doggies instead of deer, s/he gets zapped.

Those are a training device and can't be worn continually - if worn continually, the posts wear holes/sores in the animals' necks (infection) and the nylon collar becomes enbedded in a growing animal's neck. Horrible mess. Plus they are battery operated and the batteries would need replacing.

AND - They don't shock hard enough to do more to an animal of that size with that kind of coat than to just piss them off.....

39 posted on 08/21/2010 1:27:43 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: muawiyah

A bullet is cheaper and saves tax payers money....some zap collars need an area to be wired or you just keep zapping them and torturing them....my daughter had a dog on her property they were trying to catch with a zap collar. the owner just kept zapping the dog and making him jump and howl....dumb idea..finally got the collar off and found the near by neighbor that owned the dog...


52 posted on 08/21/2010 2:57:28 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: muawiyah

I’ve seen a local tom who looks both ways before crossing.


74 posted on 08/21/2010 5:51:46 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (Stupid should hurt.)
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