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Oy Vey, Obama (Jews leaving Democratic party)
New York Times ^ | August 20, 2010 | Charles M. Blow

Posted on 08/21/2010 3:47:35 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Is President Obama good for the Jews? For more and more Jewish-Americans, the answer is no.

In a Pew Research Center report issued on Thursday and entitled “Growing Number of Americans Say Obama Is a Muslim” (tragic in its own right), there was another bit of bad news for Obama: the number of Jews who identify as Republican or as independents who lean Republican has increased by more than half since the year he was elected. At 33 percent it now stands at the highest level since the data have been kept. In 2008, the ratio of Democratic Jews to Republican Jews was far more than three to one. Now it’s less than two to one.

This is no doubt a reaction, at least in part, to the Obama administration having taken a hard rhetorical stance with Israel, while taking “special time and care on our relationship with the Muslim world,” as Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, put it in June. If that sounds like courtship, it is.

(It should be noted that the Pew poll was taken before Obama’s bold support for the right of Muslims to build a community center and mosque a few blocks north of ground zero.)

Some of the president’s most ardent critics and some of Israel’s staunchest American defenders — two groups that are by no means mutually exclusive — have seized on what they see as the administration’s unfair and unbalanced treatment of Israel and have taken their denunciations to the extremes.

In September 2009, Obama went before the United Nations and declared, “America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 200909; 2010polls; bho44; bhojobapproval; jewishvote; jews; settlements
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To: reaganaut1

In September 2009, Obama went before the United Nations and declared, “America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements.”
Hey Obama,i’m sure a bit more American than you are and i do accept continuing settlements by Israel.


61 posted on 08/21/2010 5:46:53 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wendy1946

I think that’s probably why the Black community still sticks with the Dummiecrats. The country club stereotypes from yesteryear still ring strong in the community although the country clubs these days are very welcoming to the “right” kinds of blacks (Meaning that you’re more like a Bill Cosby or a Condi Rice type instead of a Snoop Dogg type).


62 posted on 08/21/2010 5:49:54 AM PDT by NorthStarStateConservative (I'm just another disabled naturalized minority vegan pro life conservative.)
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To: reaganaut1

I could never understand why so many Jews voted against their self-interest by voting for democrats.


63 posted on 08/21/2010 5:59:41 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: Ann Archy

I was tied up and forced to convert at gunpoint!!!

Of course I did it on my own. Nobody can force or even in most cases convince someone to convert, it must be done because the person believes themselves, not from pressure or someone trying to convince them.

My mother is Jewish but my father and step-father were/are both Christian. I grew up with both influences, which many have contributed, yet it took me 30 years to make the final decision.


64 posted on 08/21/2010 6:03:50 AM PDT by Brytani (There Is No (D) in November! Go Allen!!! www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: onyx

Good observation. I think Nixon received a good portion of the Jewish vote in 1972 compared to McGovern.


65 posted on 08/21/2010 6:06:19 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: reaganaut1
I think people are realizing Ø isn't a Democrat, at least not one like they've ever voted for before. THIS is something very different and at last people are seeing something is wrong. His "Islamic-prone" actions certainly are all indicators of the CHANGE ... but I don't think it is as simple as a Jews/Israel thing ... I believe it is deeper and with much greater diversity than just the Jews. Ø is not "your father's Democrat".
66 posted on 08/21/2010 6:10:15 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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To: wiggen

Yes and no - and this is one of the reasons why my husbands union membership is actually the biggest disagreement we have.

I’m not sure if it’s a Florida law or his Union does it on their own but my husband is allowed to opt out of his dues being used for political purposes. He checks a box stating such every year.

Now, we both know that dues go into a general fund and his dues are most likely being used though we could never prove it and as long as the Union says they separate the funds and nobody blows the whistle otherwise, there will be no exposure or change.


67 posted on 08/21/2010 6:10:37 AM PDT by Brytani (There Is No (D) in November! Go Allen!!! www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: SkyPilot

I do have a Jewish client, Nancy, who voted for Hussein.
Said that she couldn’t - and can’t stand Sarah - but now she is voting GOP in the midterms.
Ground Zero seems to have been the breaking point for her.
I never could get a cogent answer as to why she didn’t like Sarah, not that I’m a big fan either.
So I put to here the theory that she was, in this instance, a drone.
One who believes what she is told to believe by the media and the other leftist drones.

Interestingly again, she didn’t argue the point but just stood mute.
So some Jews have, in fact, left, but I think that those are the more independent ones.


68 posted on 08/21/2010 6:14:15 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Maine Mariner

Good to know. Thank you!


69 posted on 08/21/2010 6:17:39 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: Brytani

LOL @ “I was tied up and forced to convert at gunpoint!!!”


70 posted on 08/21/2010 6:22:52 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: onyx
“Good news, and answered prayers.”

Yeah, it's taken them long enough to have their epiphany (if really true - frankly, I'll believe it when I see it reflected at the voting booths in November)

71 posted on 08/21/2010 6:26:29 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: onyx

By a rogue right-wing, born-again, speaking in tongues, priest named El-Bubbah, from Afghanistan... :-)


72 posted on 08/21/2010 6:27:55 AM PDT by Brytani (There Is No (D) in November! Go Allen!!! www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: reaganaut1
Maybe some realize that ObamCare is a Jizya aka a tax. It is a tax on non-muslims because Muslims are exempt. Jews living in Islamic countries know all about having to pay the jizya or tax. ObamaCare is the first Islamic tax or jizya on Americans or Dhiminis. So get used to the first tax on non-muslims under muslim rule. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=jizya&rlz=1R2ADFA_enUS343&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=CML3TltJvTLDrMpDezASOrvX1DwAAAKoEBU_QLGFw Jizyah or jizya (جزْي) is the extra tax imposed on non-Muslims (Dhimmis) who live under Muslim rule according to the Qur'an.
73 posted on 08/21/2010 6:29:15 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: onyx
“Good news, and answered prayers.”

Yes Indeedee
It very well could mean there will be no more recounts needed in States like Florida, where many NE Jews go to retire. NJ also could be in play. I have also read that Obama numbers for Hispanics has actually gone down, not up like we feared. Yes, they will still vote largely for the Democrats, but in smaller numbers.

74 posted on 08/21/2010 6:31:05 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: snoringbear

Ah, come on, snoringbear, pray with me and see what happens!

:)


75 posted on 08/21/2010 6:31:53 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: Carley
Wow someone here gets it. Good one. ObamaCare is a jizya or a tax on dhiminis (non-muslims). It is the first Islamic tax in America. Muslims are exempt so it is a jizya. Christians and Jews in Islamic countries know all about Jizya. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=jizya&rlz=1R2ADFA_enUS343&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=CML3TltJvTLDrMpDezASOrvX1DwAAAKoEBU_QLGFw Jizyah or jizya (جزْي) is the extra tax imposed on non-Muslims (Dhimmis) who live under Muslim rule according to the Qur'an.
76 posted on 08/21/2010 6:33:04 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Brytani
By a rogue right-wing, born-again, speaking in tongues, priest named El-Bubbah, from Afghanistan... :-)

LOLOLOL.

You were lucky! Coulda been worse - instead of from Afghanistan, he coulda been all those things but also a snake handler too from the mountains of Appalachia!

77 posted on 08/21/2010 6:35:27 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: NorthStarStateConservative
I think that’s probably why the Black community still sticks with the Dummiecrats. The country club stereotypes from yesteryear still ring strong in the community

I think you're right -- about the blacks, the Jews and the Catholic "CINOs". The perception is that Republicans don't care about the poor, and Republicans don't do much about the image. I heard today's Republican "response" (not sure why the so-called response never responds) and it was all about how the Dems are spending too much. A brief economics nugget on how they're not only spending too much, but their spending will certainly only make things worse.

A lot of these people don't know even the basics of economics, or -- rather -- there's things they know, but don't really think of, like Armey's (?) comment a couple of years ago about how everyone hates corporations except when they need a job. It might also help to remind people that gov't may print the money, but the private sector is the source of all the things that make having money worthwhile -- houses, food, clothes, etc.

Sorry about the rant . . .:(

78 posted on 08/21/2010 6:38:42 AM PDT by maryz
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To: onyx

“Ah, come on, snoringbear, pray with me and see what happens! :)”

ohkaaaaay, I’m on my knees as I type this :)


79 posted on 08/21/2010 6:39:33 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear

Hmm...

One might say that, going into an election, a movement depending on less than 2% of the population in a few CDs is sorely lacking in acceptable message and candidates.


80 posted on 08/21/2010 6:40:58 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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