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What is relevant here is that Joe the Plumber was irrelevant, from the beginning. He asked a question. It wouldn't matter if he were a serial killer, the relevant fact was that Obama admitted he was a Marxist and the American people heard him. Immediately after the story I saw Hannity on TV talking to who, Joe the Plumber! He should never have been on TV. Nobody should care about him. It was the answer that mattered, always. But, instead people, on the Right, gave him a cool nick-name, and he immediately became the subject of FoxNews specials. I immediately predicted that the Left would now just smear him and by doing so avoid the backlash which should follow the answer from Obama. And guess who was right.

And when the Left started, which was nothing but smart at that point, we had no defence. Nobody could say the only reasonable thing, "Who cares who asked the question, look what Obama said!" No, supposed conservatives had made Joe the Plumber the story and so they could say and do nothing as the Left tore him down and helped Obama to the White House. Obama self-destructed when he answered without thinking, and we could have skewered him with it. However, in their zeal to celebrate this "regular guy" people on the Right undid themselves, and us with them. Fox set the trap and they caught us in it. It is these very kinds of stupid decisions and lack of clarity which leads to losses of major elections.

I am not saying that this mosque situation is one of these, but I think it may become one if we lose sight of the goals. The Dems love to set traps. How do we even know that this mosque was ever going to be built? Last I heard this group had $10,000 in their account. You can't build anything in lower Manhattan for that. You can't fix the windows with that. For all I know this is another bait and switch like the Sherrod video, and somebody is sitting back and waiting for just the right thing to happen and they will pull the pin on it. I am asking questions like just how much we really stand to win if we stop this potential mosque from being built, assuming it ever would have been built? What damage could we suffer in so doing? Will it be yet another Pyrrhic victory? I don't know, but I keep waiting for a Mel Gibson moment. You should prepare yourself.

[jessduntno]

“Will it be yet another Pyrrhic victory? I don’t know, but I keep waiting for a Mel Gibson moment. You should prepare yourself.”

Dem activists conducted illegal investigations and passed them to the press, who then made HIM the story and ignored the statement by that POS in the WH. Hannity did nothing to change the story (but throw a toy football like a girl). You seem to be in the “blame conservatives first” branch of the The Grand Old Potty.

You refuse to acknowledge this for some reason. Obama did not “avoid back;ash” because of anyhting other than the fact that the left controls the media that you want to placate.

You are either a willing idiot or don’t understand the dynamic of the press. Maybe both. Either way, if you think that the path to victory over the left comes through soft Republican political tactics, you will end up with an ice pick in your ear. That there is some pretty reliable history, Bubba.

Good luck with your kinder gentler Republican tactics and winning through influencing the American press.