“We have to be careful. This mosque discussion is growing too big and could turn on us. If anyone does or says anything which the media can make the new issue then we will have no way to make headway in the discussion. We have to remember that when fighting a political war only political weapons matter, and we keep shooting ourselves in the feet.”
That’s pathetic. Let’s all cower in the corner because the press might not like us and work against us? Let me guess, you think we should continue running “moderate Republicans” and “working across the aisle” am I right?
Americans don’t like where the country is headed. Keep playing the politically correct game and adding more limp wristed Republicans to the list and they will not come along. Conservatives will win. But to be a Conservative, you need to stop whimpering and give people real hope.
The Grand Old Potty needs to be flushed.
You just said; “However, people like Sean Hannity decided to play right into the Left’s hands and focussed on the personality of the man who asked the question, and thereby gave a free pass to the media to ignore the actual words of the candidate, i.e. Obama.”
Well, I don’t know what country you are living in, but the press got a hold of Joe the Plumber, tore him to shreds, Dem activists conducted illegal investigations and passed them to the press, who then made HIM the story and ignored the statement by that POS in the WH. Hannity did nothing to change the story (but throw a toy football like a girl). You seem to be in the “blame conservatives first” branch of the The Grand Old Potty.
That’s pathetic. Let’s all cower in the corner because the press might not like us and work against us? Let me guess, you think we should continue running “moderate Republicans” and “working across the aisle” am I right?
Hardly. You are reading into my words. I am saying that we have to act carefully so that we don't play into enemy hands. And the Left is the enemy. The press, btw, is also on the Left and so they work for the enemy too. We have to recognise this acting accordingly.
And I don't think we need "moderate" anything, but conservatives. But smart ones who won't keep saying and doing things which will let the Left off the hook for their stupid gaffes over and over again.
Well, I don’t know what country you are living in, but the press got a hold of Joe the Plumber, tore him to shreds...
Exactly, but they did that because we on the Right focussed on him and made him the story. If Hannity et al hadn't been doing specials on what a great guy he was, and instead had been hammering at Obama's retarded comment, then we could have simply responded "Hey, Joe the Plumber is not the story, he just asked a question..." We couldn't though because all of the people who could have said that had actually made him the story, over and over again. That meant we had no response at all to the media attacks. Dumb.
Look at the Sherrod video. A video clip comes out, Breitbart is baited into showing it, and immediately Obama starts firing people. When it comes out that the clip was misleading and that she probably wasn't the demon she looked to have been who gets the blame for jumping on it? FoxNews and the Right. Does Obama have to answer for firing somebody without knowing anything? No. Does the NAACP, who had the complete recording and still denounced her, have to answer for anything? No. And guess what story disappears? The racist charge of the NAACP about Tea Parties. Either it was a bait and switch, calculated from the start (who ever heard of this administration and the NAACP so quickly acting against and denouncing an anti-white bigot before?) or it was just a calculated move to recover from a hasty firing by the White House, but in either case we again suffered from a blunder on the Left somehow being used to make us on the Right look bad. It happens again and again and we never seem to start looking for traps. Or, as in the case of Joe the Plumber, we are hoist on our own petards.
This is not about being wimpy or soft. That is hardly the point. It is about being calculating and prepared. We have to be wise as serpents, but that doesn't mean being weak and soft. Anything but. The Left controls the media and we cannot keep pretending that isn't so.
You seem to be in the “blame conservatives first” branch of the The Grand Old Potty.
You seem confused. First, I am wrong to call liberals the enemy as only Islam deserves that title. And now I, a conservative, am the enemy because I think we keep giving liberals the opportunities to win. It is called responsibility, and conservatives used to embody it. Used to. Now, if you suggest that mistakes are being made you are just "blaming conservatives first." Twaddle. I am blaming those who are blameworthy. Democrats don't just win elections, we lose them. Over and over Republicans manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, and until you and all of us start realising that we deserve the blame for this we will never be able to change that fact.
You need to wake up and realise that we on the Right are constantly letting the Left dictate the terms of the encounter, and that means we lose every time. And any win we can celebrate is usually a Pyrrhic one. That is what this mosque situation threatens to be if we are not careful. We are in the moral right, but if we make the wrong political moves we will end up suffering heavier losses than it is worth.
Please ignore my reference to “enemy” in the second and third sentences in the penultimate paragraph of post #56. I didn’t realise until too late that you were not the person I had previous responded to, and so made reference to the previous posts which would not be relevant to your comments. Sorry if I caused any confusion.