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Anti-Islam Protest in U.S. Bolsters Extremists, Experts Say (NY Times Alert)
The New York Times ^ | Friday, August 20, 2010 | Scott Shane

Posted on 08/20/2010 6:40:56 PM PDT by kristinn

Some counterterrorism experts say the anti-Muslim sentiment that has saturated the airwaves and blogs in the debate over plans for an Islamic center near ground zero in Lower Manhattan is playing into the hands of extremists by bolstering their claims that the United States is hostile to Islam.

Opposition to the center by prominent politicians and other public figures in the United States has been covered extensively by the news media in Muslim countries. At a time of concern about radicalization of young Muslims in the West, it risks adding new fuel to Al Qaeda’s claim that Islam is under attack by the West and must be defended with violence, some specialists on Islamic militancy say.

“I know people in this debate don’t intend it, but there are consequences for these kinds of remarks,” said Brian Fishman, who studies terrorism for the New America Foundation here.

He said that Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born cleric hiding in Yemen who has been linked to several terrorist plots, has been arguing for months in Web speeches and in a new Qaeda magazine that American Muslims face a dark future of ever-worsening discrimination and vilification.

“When the rhetoric is so inflammatory that it serves the interests of a jihadi recruiter like Awlaki, politicians need to be called on it,” Mr. Fishman said.

Evan F. Kohlmann, who tracks militant Web sites at the security consulting firm Flashpoint Global Partners, said supporters of Al Qaeda have seized on the controversy “with glee.” On radical Web forums, he said, the dispute over the Islamic center, which would include space for worship, is lumped together with fringe developments like a Florida pastor’s call for making Sept. 11 “Burn a Koran Day.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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Ten Christian humanitarians were slaughtered recently by Muslims in Afghanistan. Where is the article in the New York Times warning that such anti-Christian acts risk encouraging anti-Muslim rhetoric?

But, according to the experts it's all our fault that because we don't want an Islamic Victory mosque at Ground Zero that terrorists will want to attack us again.

1 posted on 08/20/2010 6:41:01 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Oh, so that is why they attacked us on 9/11.


2 posted on 08/20/2010 6:42:36 PM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: kristinn

So what “consequences” are there for the millions of Islamists screaming “Death to America” and burning our flag?

*Crickets*


3 posted on 08/20/2010 6:42:48 PM PDT by Politicalmom (A racist is a conservative who is winning an argument with a liberal.-FReeper Freespirited)
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To: kristinn

The same thing happened with Japan and Germany during WWII. As long as they were attacking the US and its interests, the dislike and distrust of Islam will continue and grow. It will grow until something breaks. It’s up to Islam how far it will go.

Remember, once Japan and Germany were beaten, Americans left them alone. I will not accept the belief by some people that it is Americas fault.


4 posted on 08/20/2010 6:47:34 PM PDT by RC2 (Remember who we are. "I am America")
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To: kristinn

So we better vote in the Victory Mosque or they’ll get mad at us and kill us.


5 posted on 08/20/2010 6:48:00 PM PDT by Bertha Fanation
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To: kristinn
If we are not hostile toward the radical Muslims that killed 3000+ of our citizens, we’ve already lost the war on terrorism. If the Muslims are sincere about tolerance, let them prove it by letting us build a Christian church 2 blocks from Mecca.
6 posted on 08/20/2010 6:50:03 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: kristinn

Yes, it does bolster extremists and that is one of the reasons the Mosque is planned for GZ. Also, anti mosque statements will be broadcast in Saudi, Dubai, etc. to show people that “we really don’t really believe in their freedom”. This aggressive act is win, win, win for the people funding it.

My question is, how is Obama getting ahead in all of this? Given the 52,000sqft mosque in Murfreesboro too, I would bet that Obama had some sort of conversation with the king of Saudi but what I don’t get is what is he getting in return? I wouldn’t put it past him to have offered his support for the Mosques in return for nothing but who knows?


7 posted on 08/20/2010 6:50:20 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: kristinn

As soon as I saw the words “New York Times”......What did they do, make, I mean take a ‘pole’? Oh, sorry, this was an ‘expert’. Pffffft!


8 posted on 08/20/2010 6:51:12 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope for survival.)
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The standard propaganda tangent as usual, it's simply our own fault these peace loving muslims hate us and want to destroy us.

If we only reached out and started a mutual dialogue, we wouldn't be helping those bent on destroying us in their recruiting efforts, blah blah blah.

Really, how many cowards are there in this country who believe this complete nonsense?

9 posted on 08/20/2010 6:51:24 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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These “experts” are full of $hit and what they are saying amounts to more BS excuses........you can remove every grievance these ISLAMIC extremists, radicals, and terrorist have about the US today and they would wake up tomorrow and find something new to excuse their extremist, radical, and terrorist actions and deeds. Anti-Islam protests are meaningless to the greater reasons and motivations as to why ISLAMIC extremists, radicals, and terrorists do what they do. Therefore, as I initially asserted, these alleged “experts” are full of $hit! Oh, and frak you libtard idiot-ridden New York Slimes for even printing this BS (!) story. =.=


10 posted on 08/20/2010 6:51:54 PM PDT by cranked
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To: NurdlyPeon

pole = poll


11 posted on 08/20/2010 6:55:02 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope for survival.)
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To: Politicalmom
The consequences are, we the sheeple have been mesmerized by a super sleep hopenosis.

isSlime has been known to use absolute barbarism including mass murder through poisoning.

Makes you wonder whether Adolph or they came first? Actually it was them by a millenia.

12 posted on 08/20/2010 6:56:15 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)
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To: rawcatslyentist
The little mentally insane demon child always had delusions of grandeur. Supposedly his signature in concret outside a school in HAwaii.

13 posted on 08/20/2010 6:59:24 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: kristinn

Duh!


14 posted on 08/20/2010 7:09:57 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: RummyChick
Nixon ..... missing 18 minutes

0d0rk0 ...... missing 48 years!

15 posted on 08/20/2010 7:13:01 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)
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To: kristinn

I think the opposite. It makes the Islamists less emboldened. Evil has to be confronted and dealt with.


16 posted on 08/20/2010 7:14:35 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Bunnies Are Worthy Of Death!)
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To: RummyChick

Good one! Divine Rights of Kings still exist and Obama is proof of that.


17 posted on 08/20/2010 7:15:22 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Bunnies Are Worthy Of Death!)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Is Obama the Winged Horse
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=37395

This, by tradition, is the night when many Muslims commemorate the night flight of the prophet Muhammad on the winged horse Buraq.

Btw, Iran is going Nuclear around that Aug 22 date.


18 posted on 08/20/2010 7:15:32 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: kristinn
“I know people in this debate don’t intend it, but there are consequences for these kinds of remarks,” said Brian Fishman, who studies terrorism for the New America Foundation here.

There are also consequences for murdering 3,000 people on American soil.
19 posted on 08/20/2010 7:22:49 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Bertha Fanation
So we better vote in the Victory Mosque or they’ll get mad at us and kill us.

Isn't that the purpose of the Victory Mosque, to bolster the extremists? So now, we don't allow the Mosque, and we bolster those same extremists, and it's all our fault?

20 posted on 08/20/2010 7:31:41 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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