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To: nickcarraway
The smoking gun proving Obama belonged to the "stars and crescent" occurred during his interview with influential pastor Rick Warren, when he publicly admitted: "I believe Jesus died for my sins and I'm redeemed through him – that is a source of strength and sustenance on a daily basis."

OBAMA lied. He was raised agnotistic/Unitarian by mama and grandma. He was raised as a muslim in school and by 2 absent muslim fathers. He never was raised Christian and has said that he does NOT see Jesus as "the way". He sees Christ as a "historical figure".

2004 Interview: Obama Talks about Jesus, Heaven and Sin June 3, 2008 (CBN Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008)

In 2004, he gave an interview to Cathleen Falsani who was the religion reporter at the Chicago Sun-Times.

(GG is God Girl aka Cathleen Falsani) GG: Who’s Jesus to you?

OBAMA: Right. Jesus is a historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.

GG: The conversation stopper, when you say you’re a Christian and leave it at that.

OBAMA: Where do you move forward with that? This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize.There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they're going to hell.

GG: You don’t believe that?

OBAMA: I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.

... GG: Do you believe in sin?

OBAMA: Yes.

GG: What is sin?

OBAMA: Being out of alignment with my values.

GG: What happens if you have sin in your life?

OBAMA: I think it’s the same thing as the question about heaven. In the same way that if I’m true to myself and my faith that that is its own reward, when I’m not true to it, it’s its own punishment


28 posted on 08/20/2010 12:20:17 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Those who support the construction of the WTC mosque oppose Christian missionaries working abroad.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Sin: “being out of alignment with my values”

He defined himself as his own god, right there.


48 posted on 08/20/2010 1:01:13 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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