Posted on 08/20/2010 11:33:01 AM PDT by tobyhill
One of the leaders of the proposed Islamic center and mosque two blocks from ground zero in New York says it's too late to back out now.
"There is too much at stake," said Daisy Khan, who, with her husband, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, is leading the project. "Constitutional rights, the development of the Muslims here, how the world is watching the United States. We tell people America upholds religious freedom. We should not compromise those values."
Khan spoke to Sally Quinn of the Washington Post, who quoted her in a blog post.
"We have to convince people that not all Muslims are extremists," said Khan, as quoted by Quinn. "We have to educate them on being able to distinguish between us and on the issue of Islamophobia. This is a bigger fight. This is a defining moment for us."
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time to smoke a camel... or a camel jockey.
They say this islamic garbage thing will cost a hundred million bucks. What with N.Y. unions and construction workers refusing to work it I gots to believe if built it costs a whole lot more, and costs a few lives.
And I’m sorry,
Good afternoon
Toby Hill
Where are the “Friends of Cast-Iron Architecture” when you need them?
I think your grammar and spelling is in error. Please, allow me to help:
At this point, it is important as Americans, they make their stand and be defeated. If one group allows itself to be bullied then it would expand to other groups that killed 3000 Americans in terrorist acts on United States soil, as well.
There. That's better.
Wasn't it construction workers who turned the tide against the New Left in 1969 by demonstrating for the war?
Click and you'll see why the following is a related thread.
Amen! Try & bring in non union muzzie construction workers & see how many wind up as floaters in the East River.
Thanks for your help.
Please inform your local FBI office, the number of people that contributed to murder of 3000 Americans and are involved with Park-51 project.
If you do not make that call to stop this monstrosity, then unlike people involved with Park-51 project, you lack the courage to stand up and defend your Constitutional rights.
“Amen! Try & bring in non union muzzie construction workers & see how many wind up as floaters in the East River.”
Oh yes! this is getting better by the second for the Islamic fools.
Neato. And the way you do that is to proclaim that America was an accessory to 9/11, refuse to condemn an organization (Hamas) that has been designated by the US State Department as terrorist, and call for the integration of Sharia law into the US (as your husband has done). Way to go!!!
(Also, have your husband continue to refuse to speak to American reporters, so Americans can be "educated" - like, how?)
invading muslims have behaved this way for centuries. eventually the host countries tried to kill every last one of them. oh well
Any thoughts on why the forces behind the Ground Zero mosque, purportedly devoted to fostering peace and tolerance, persist in suggesting that the majority of Americans who object to the location of the victory mosque shove their objections up their ass?
Two points - Majority has been built up with worst sort of propoganda. Just the phrase, “Ground Zero Mosque”, is so loaded, no American who hears it is going to react positively to it. In addition, repeated assertions have been made that because some donations could come from SA thus this will turn into a “terrorist headquarter downtown”. I heard that over and over on FNC. Again, because of the Time Square attempted bombing recently, ofcourse when people hear those words, they will not react positively.
Before going to Iraq War, about 80% of Americans were in favor of it, because even that Majority had been build by repeating carefully chosen phrases. It didn’t start out that high, but “WMDs” and “Mushroom Clouds” and “Chemical Weapons”, after hearing those terms over and over, people started responding.
Now, even the Afghanistan War, which ought to be fought and won, is losing support.
If media and elites and Obama wants, they can build that back up, but I guess everyone has had enough.
So point being word MAJORITY means nothing to me, specially concerning the polls, as over and over media and elites have shown, they are able to get the DESIRED polls over time.
Why they want the polls to show the current results, I suspect all the laws on the books to eradicate Bill-of-Rights, during “emergency” or “need-for-security” need to be tested. NWO Elites want to conduct an experiment see, how far they can push the boundaries, and at what stage of preparedness American people at - how far are they willing to follow them, and what “words” and “insinuations” are effective.
In addition, the SECOND DIP of Double-Dip recession is approaching fast. Anytime now. If market is going to crash by another 2K to 3K points, and more MASSIVE layoffs are going to be announced, and more jobless-benefits would expire, elites do not want people raging against them, and specially not against the MOTHERSHIP - Central Bankers. It is much more desireable for them for people to rage against barack HUSSEIN “Islamic Seed from his Dad” obama.
Elites know that one thing that soothes the masses is ability to THROW THE RASCALS OUT. So they suspect after this election, elites LEFT PUPPETS will be thrown out, so now they are helping that along, and getting ready to put their RIGHT PUPPETS in. That should calm down people for good year or two. Give them HOPE that now that we have Congress and now tha we would FINALLY get a TRUE CONSERVATIVE in White House, everything wrong would be righted and we can live happily ever after. But that scenario is NEVER permitted, because *whatever* candidate they do stage for this gladitorial even would be BILDEBERG/CFR/TRI-LATERA-COMMISSION/CENTRAL-BANKER approved. As long as that is the case, NO REAL CHANGE would take place.
Second point, for public to raise objection on something legit, is absolutely understandable. However, this entire request is based on GUILT BY ASSOCIATION. If the people involved with Cordoba Project give in, they are pretty much agreeing that is is OK for people to judge them guilty based on guilt by association. They be held responsible for acts committed by other Muslims that they themselves had not known, and did not have anything to do with. If they give in to that point, they would be officially declaring every single muslim in US as a Terrorist Suspect. How in the world can they agree to that?
Just the phrase, “Ground Zero Mosque”, is so loaded, no American who hears it is going to react positively to it.
Yeah, "Japanese attack Pearl Harbor" and "Muslims crash planes into World Trade Center" have the same effect. Strange, huh? I mean using actual words to describe actual events - go figure.
In addition, repeated assertions have been made that because some donations could come from SA thus this will turn into a “terrorist headquarter downtown”.
Yeah, what a longshot that would be, huh?
Again, because of the Time Square attempted bombing recently, ofcourse when people hear those words, they will not react positively.
Just because yet another Muslim tried to kill Americans simply because we're Americans is no reason not to welcome with open arms a Ground Zero mosque funded by Saudis. It's just so illogical.
Before going to Iraq War, about 80% of Americans were in favor of it, because even that Majority had been build by repeating carefully chosen phrases. It didn’t start out that high, but “WMDs” and “Mushroom Clouds” and “Chemical Weapons”, after hearing those terms over and over, people started responding.
Salman Pak, Saddam's violation of the terms of GW1 truce, corrupt Food for Oil program, Saddam subsidizing the families of suicide bombers, the fact that America got sucker punched by Muslims on 9/11 - none of this entered into the support for the war. Of course not.
The rest of your BILDEBERG/CFR/TRI-LATERA-COMMISSION/CENTRAL-BANKER approved rant is hilarious, in a mentally ill sort of way. Your handlers should understand that using these terms doesn't make one sound like a conservative American; it's very amateurish.
However, this entire request is based on GUILT BY ASSOCIATION.
If the jihad fits....
All Japanese didn’t attack pearl harbor, all muslims didn’t participate in 9/11.
Because you believe any mosque can turn into a terrorist headquarter, doesn’t mean you should be given rights to usurp bill-of-rights.
There are American’s committing horrnendous crimes from all races and religions. You do not have rights to pick one convenient target and take their rights from them.
All the evidence you sighted in terms of what justified war with Iraq would not have gotten the support. What got the support or POLLS to go that high was subliminal association with 9/11 and promise of WMDs and Mushroom clouds.
Because you haven’t educated your self enough about the role Central Bankers’s play, you are the one who has the problem, not me.
THANKS FOR ADMITTING - You are only driven by anger and you don’t care who you accuse of what.
That made my day! Thanks again!
Now run along.
Yes, at least you know it hyphenated, even you don’t really know its purpose and spirit. Thanks for the correc-tio-n.
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