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To: smoothsailing
I've said it before and I'll say it again: until the legal definition of "religion" excludes all compulsion and all inequalities for human status (i.e. men, women and children equally regarded as human beings), we will continue to have problems with totalitarian groups hiding behind the 1st Amendment.

I truly believe that nothing less that making an explicit legal definition of religion will stop this problem.

6 posted on 08/17/2010 11:59:41 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker

Religions in the US have never been allowed to engage in practices that violate our Constitutional guarantees and must abide by US law. Islam is more than a “religion,” however; it is a complete political and economic system, and it is a theocracy (where civil and religious law are the same and the ultimate political authorities are the clergy), which is at heart a rival political system. That is, it conflicts with our system and is its enemy.

Until Islam is honestly analyzed and defined as a political system, we will not be able to deal with it. Even the 1st Amendment doesn’t protect a rival political system trying to overthrow the United States system, and that’s essentially what Islam is and what it’s doing.


10 posted on 08/18/2010 2:33:41 AM PDT by livius
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To: Talisker
I've said it before and I'll say it again: until the legal definition of "religion" excludes all compulsion and all inequalities for human status (i.e. men, women and children equally regarded as human beings), we will continue to have problems with totalitarian groups hiding behind the 1st Amendment.

I truly believe that nothing less that making an explicit legal definition of religion will stop this problem.


IMHO the proposed site for the Victory Mosque for the Nineteen Martyrs is incorrectly being identified as not part of ground zero, and incorrectly being labeled as matter of freedom of religion and speech.

Secondly, we need to constantly remind people that Islam is not only a religion. It is also a political system. Islam as practiced by the overwhelming majority of its adherents micro manages every aspect of one's life and has demonstrated in words and deeds its intention to destroy the US and its culture. This is treason and needs to be treated as such.

In addition, Islam the political system and religion are entwined. There is a tradition of erecting mosques at the site of victories, e.g. the Cordoba mosque built at the site of St Sohpia's in Spain.
18 posted on 08/18/2010 5:14:25 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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