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1 posted on 08/17/2010 2:20:31 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
This explains it: Michelle Obama Hates Beets, But George H.W. Bush Banned Broccoli
2 posted on 08/17/2010 2:24:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: neverdem

I like beets


3 posted on 08/17/2010 2:26:28 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: neverdem
This kind of tripe is the price we pay for having a scientifically illiterate class of legal mandarins usurping the legislative powers of representative branches of government. Easy prey and so accommodating for psychopathic political whores masquerading as "experts."
4 posted on 08/17/2010 2:27:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: neverdem
This kind of tripe is the price we pay for having a scientifically illiterate class of legal mandarins usurping the legislative powers of representative branches of government. Easy prey and so accommodating for psychopathic political whores masquerading as "experts."
5 posted on 08/17/2010 2:27:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: neverdem
Where in the constitution do they have the right.............

Oh never mind, we don't care what that ancient document states anymore.

6 posted on 08/17/2010 2:31:17 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe
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To: neverdem

What we have here is a case of unscientific superstition taking command of our food supply. Next up will be burning witches.


7 posted on 08/17/2010 2:31:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: neverdem

BEETS, BEARS, and BATTLESTAR GALACTICA !


10 posted on 08/17/2010 2:40:36 PM PDT by onona (dbada)
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To: neverdem

Dwight: First rule in roadside beet sales, put the most attractive bets on top. The ones that make you pull the car over and go “wow, I need this beet right now”. Those are the money beets.

12 posted on 08/17/2010 2:42:08 PM PDT by earlJam
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To: neverdem

bump


13 posted on 08/17/2010 2:42:44 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty.)
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To: neverdem
"Meanwhile, weeds treated with any herbicide tend to become resistant to those that are applied to them,..."

This is true only if the herbicides are used other than specified on the label, or a particular herbicide (glyphosate in this instance) is used exclusively.

14 posted on 08/17/2010 2:46:10 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: neverdem
Activists at the Center for Food Safety and the Sierra Club argued in federal court that sugar beets improved to resist the herbicide glyphosate might result in the development of superweeds or might interbreed with organic chard and regular beets.

That cat is already out of the bag. There are people at Monsanto who belong in jail for slowly deactivating the best herbicide in 100 years, just because the patent had expired. In my opinion, Monsanto wants to sell one hell of a lot of RoundUp until it is no longer effective, then to sell its newly patented and far more expensive alternatives.

Meanwhile, weeds treated with any herbicide tend to become resistant to those that are applied to them, this is not something peculiar to biotech plants.

The two mechanisms are vastly different and represent a massive corresponding difference in the degree of that resistance.

And most sugar beets are grown nowhere near organic chard or red beets and so will have no chance to interbreed with them.

This may be true, at first. But those weeds in the vicinity that DO acquire glyphosate resistance will be fully capable of conducting that gene for vast distances. Those who doubt me there should look at what glyphosate resistant pigweed is doing to RoundUp Ready corn and soybeans.

Finally, to argue that the Sierra Club is acting on the behalf of big seed producers when it is Monsanto producing RoundUp Ready seed is one ballsy red herring. This looks more like a battle between giant seed companies with their respective surrogates posturing in court and in the media.

I have to leave for the day, so to those who respond, I'm not ignoring you.

15 posted on 08/17/2010 2:48:50 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Government is an apex predator.)
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To: neverdem

Why not just plant the beets anyway? What are they going to do, send out a shovel brigade to dig them up and test them? Or to make things more difficult, mix in some of the genetically engineered beets with “normal” ones.


16 posted on 08/17/2010 3:08:20 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: neverdem

I think it is wise to point out to everybody that it might be very wise to lay up a store of sugar now. Note: this article was *before* the judge’s decision.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE57C0Q220090813

“Large U.S. food companies have been pushing the Obama administration to ease sugar import curbs, citing forecasts for unprecedented sugar shortages that could result in higher retail prices and possible job losses.”

“In a letter to U.S. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack dated August 5, companies and groups that include Kraft Foods Inc, General Mills Inc and Hershey Co warn that “our nation will virtually run out of sugar,” if a USDA forecast is accurate.”

*

Because of the decision of this federal judge, the study he demands may put a halt to 95% of all US sugar production, for TWO YEARS, right when US inventories are bottoming out.

And add to that, the US congress, in a fit of insanity, still mandates that a huge amount of US corn production (and thus corn sugar), is to be used to produce *ethanol* for automobile fuel. This is already driving up animal feed prices and grain prices.

So processed food companies use a vast amount of sugar for their products, there is almost certainly going to be an extended shortage of sugar on store shelves. And what little there is, is going to be very expensive.


17 posted on 08/17/2010 3:09:00 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: neverdem

Looks like the food police are going to be successful at driving the cost of sugar as high as possible.

As someone who cannot eat the “diet” chemical concoctions I use the real thing. NYS was going to tax the crap out of sugar but I think that is on the back burner right now.


18 posted on 08/17/2010 3:14:41 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: neverdem

“....Govt bans IMPROVED beets....”

Govt bans improvements. Gee. what a shock.


22 posted on 08/17/2010 5:11:59 PM PDT by 4Liberty ( How do you spell "moral hazard"?: $ 19, 0 0 0, 0 0 0, 0 0 0, 0 0 0.)
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Thanks neverdem.
Activists at the Center for Food Safety and the Sierra Club argued in federal court that sugar beets improved to resist the herbicide glyphosate might result in the development of superweeds or might interbreed with organic chard and regular beets... Sugar beets are the source of half the sugar produced in the U.S. Biotech sugar beets were approved as safe for growing by the USDA five years ago. The frankenbeets at issue in this case are now so popular with farmers that they constitute 95 percent of the current crop. In fact, there may not be enough conventional seeds to replace biotech seeds for next year's planting.
And this hurts farmers because the price of sugar will go up, and, uh, hey, wait a minute...
23 posted on 08/17/2010 8:12:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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25 posted on 08/18/2010 1:52:54 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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