[WOSG]

Two fact for you:
Obama is the worst President in our lifetimes.
Obama was born in Honolulu, in August 1961.

Evidence of first is ample. Evidence of second - the newspaper birth announcement in Honolulu newspapers in Aug 1961.

Just because someone doesn’t fall for the birther claims doesn’t make them Obama supporters; that’s lame, shallow and false.

[Jonah Vark]

Can someone tell us if a newspaper article would hold up as evidence in a court of law? Wouldn’t there have to be proof to back up the validity of the article?

[Red Steel]

Two fact for you: Obama is the worst President in our lifetimes.
Obama was born in Honolulu, in August 1961.

A "fact' that Obama was born in Hawaii?

Evidence of first is ample. Evidence of second - the newspaper birth announcement in Honolulu newspapers in Aug 1961.

Just because someone doesn’t fall for the birther claims doesn’t make them Obama supporters; that’s lame, shallow and false.

What is lame is all the evidence that after-birthers avoid to acknowledge. There is plenty of evidence against Obama.

- Obama puts out a false birth certificate.

- Family members have said Obama was born in Kenya

- Michelle Obama has said her husband is a Kenyan and Kenya is his home country.

- Kenyan Minister James Orengo said Obama was born in Kenya.

- Obama inherited at birth a British/Kenyan citizenship from his father and not a natural born US citizen.

- Kenyan Parliament members celebrating Obama's presidency said he is the son of the soil of Kenya. In other words Obama is a native of Kenya.

- And if he was born overseas, Obama's mama could not confer US citizenship to Obama because she was too young in accordance with US law. And if she could transfer her US citizenship to Obama, it would be by US statute which is naturalization, therefore, Obama could not be a natural born citizen.

- Obama is evasive who acts like a criminal not like a president. He will not prove to a court of law or any other controlling authority that he was born in Hawaii.

No Obama is not a natural born citizen and highly likely was not born in Hawaii.

[null and void]

To: RobinMasters; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...

I find it hard to believe that people are still talking about this birth announcement as if it actually proved that Obama was born in Hawaii. Here are the questions I have for those who insist it can:

1. EXACTLY, which part of this announcement indicates that Obama was born in Hawaii?

2. EXACTLY, which part of this ad indicates that this announcement was NOT phoned in?

Let me reiterate the fact that birth announcements can and were phoned in. Saying that they only came from Vital Records is patently false.

Secondly, and I know that this won't sit well with the Obama supporters, but the evidence for Obama being born outside of Hawaii is stronger than it is for being born inside, and that Ann Dunham obtained her son's birth certificate several days dater.

I checked with the sales department and classifieds at the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin. Call them yourselves if you don't believe me.

Plus, there is a lot more than suspicion about the address listed, as posted elsewhere, that there is no record of Mr & Mrs Barack Obama ever living there, but there is of another family. Also no black man or black child was ever seen there.

But, let's explore an alternative explanation: that the microfiche was altered.

The date of the birth announcements in the Aug 13, 1961 issue of the Sunday Advertiser ran from Sunday, July 30 to Monday, August 7.

The order of the birthdates, from the 1st listing to the 12th, seems to be random, ranging from July 30 to August 6. Since typeface is set from bottom to top, the last listing is actually the first, and from there upwards to the 13 th listing, the order is increasing chronologically from 4, 4, 4, 4 {Obama's}, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7, and the # of ads by day goes from Friday (4), Saturday (4), Sunday (1), and Monday (2).

Why would the Advertiser start its column with the weekend before last, from Friday to Monday, and then randomly from that point onwards?

If every listing came from Vital Records, then you would expect the entire list to be ordered by date or name. But, we know it's not. Maybe the first half came from the same hospital?

 

Those lines have been identified by some as "typeset lines" or ghost lines. The Advertiser listing for Obama has lines on both the top and bottom that continue on into the next column. The Star Bulletin listing does not.

224 posted on 07/24/2009 11:28:55 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)

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To: Polarik

Plus, there is a lot more than suspicion about the address listed, as posted elsewhere, that there is no record of Mr & Mrs Barack Obama ever living there, but there is of another family.

There is no evidence that there ever was a Mr & Mrs Barack Obama or that Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham ever lived together under the same roof at any time.

225 posted on 07/24/2009 11:36:03 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)

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[Polarik]

I find it hard to believe that people are still talking about this birth announcement as if it actually proved that Obama was born in Hawaii. Here are the questions I have for those who insist it can:

1. EXACTLY, which part of this announcement indicates that Obama was born in Hawaii?

2. EXACTLY, which part of this ad indicates that this announcement was NOT phoned in?

Let me reiterate the fact that birth announcements can and were phoned in. Saying that they only came from Vital Records is patently false.

Secondly, and I know that this won't sit well with the Obama supporters, but the evidence for Obama being born outside of Hawaii is stronger than it is for being born inside, and that Ann Dunham obtained her son's birth certificate several days dater.

I checked with the sales department and classifieds at the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin. Call them yourselves if you don't believe me.

Plus, there is a lot more than suspicion about the address listed, as posted elsewhere, that there is no record of Mr & Mrs Barack Obama ever living there, but there is of another family. Also no black man or black child was ever seen there.

But, let's explore an alternative explanation: that the microfiche was altered.

The date of the birth announcements in the Aug 13, 1961 issue of the Sunday Advertiser ran from Sunday, July 30 to Monday, August 7.

The order of the birthdates, from the 1st listing to the 12th, seems to be random, ranging from July 30 to August 6. Since typeface is set from bottom to top, the last listing is actually the first, and from there upwards to the 13 th listing, the order is increasing chronologically from 4, 4, 4, 4 {Obama's}, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7, and the # of ads by day goes from Friday (4), Saturday (4), Sunday (1), and Monday (2).

Why would the Advertiser start its column with the weekend before last, from Friday to Monday, and then randomly from that point onwards?

If every listing came from Vital Records, then you would expect the entire list to be ordered by date or name. But, we know it's not. Maybe the first half came from the same hospital?

 

Those lines have been identified by some as "typeset lines" or ghost lines. The Advertiser listing for Obama has lines on both the top and bottom that continue on into the next column. The Star Bulletin listing does not.

[Beckwith]

Plus, there is a lot more than suspicion about the address listed, as posted elsewhere, that there is no record of Mr & Mrs Barack Obama ever living there, but there is of another family.

There is no evidence that there ever was a Mr & Mrs Barack Obama or that Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham ever lived together under the same roof at any time.