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First Amendment Watch: Beck Forbidden from Prayer at Kennedy Center
bigjournalism.com ^ | 08/17/10 | Michael Walsh

Posted on 08/16/2010 10:58:09 PM PDT by American Dream 246




Technically speaking, the Kennedy Center is not Congress, but the building — a monument to the first Roman Catholic president — is federally supported.

Luckily, this story has a happy ending. But how many ordinary Americans have a microphone or a TV show with which to make bureaucratic enormities like this public?

Behold the wages, not of sin, but of the evil known as “political correctness” –

VIDEO GLENN BECK

Lest we forget, the Kennedy Center’s forerunner as Washington’s premiere concert hall, Constitution Hall, run by the Daughters of the American Revolution, once tried to ban contralto Marian Anderson for the simple crime of being black. Here she is in action, singing the “Ave Maria” just to make the atheists and Schubert-haters crazy:

VIDEO

Eternal vigilance, indeed.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anderson; beck; christanism; christianity; dar; glennbeck; islam; lds; mariananderson; mormon; muslims; obama; palin; religion
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To: ansel12

Debating the theological differences matters very little when the chains are being fitted onto your body.

That’s where we are at right now.

Sober up and get on the side of freedom.

You can debate the differences between Christianity and the LDS Church later.


41 posted on 08/17/2010 3:57:20 AM PDT by Nextrush (Slocialist Republicans and Socialist Democrats need to go)
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To: Nextrush
I agree

Somebody tells you who there are and what they believe, and you tell them they are wrong ?

I don't have a problem with God. But I do have problems with people who believe theirs is the only true religion. We have lost too many young men and women because some zealot convinced people they and their way were better than others.

42 posted on 08/17/2010 4:23:03 AM PDT by maine yankee
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To: bronxville
I believe it’s a true story. I remember reading about it a while back.

The University of Maryland is a Catholic College.


Huh? My daughter is in grad school at the College Park campus. That's news to me.
43 posted on 08/17/2010 6:09:33 AM PDT by crosshairs (Celebrate diversity. Own a variety of firearms.)
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To: Talisker; dixiechick2000; ansel12
Lets take a few of your statements here:
How can a Savior be other than sent from God?

Then hypocritically you challenge those who hold, not only a fact based position, but one that has been confirmed by all traditional and orthodox denominations (including the LDS not all that long ago) with this statement:

Don't Bible thump at me without being willing to define your terms, and respect other opinions than yours if you come across them.

You want definitions? How about the Scriptures themselves? Lets take the most well known passage in all of the New Testament, John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son...

The Scriptures say that Jesus Christ is the ONLY Son of God. The Mormons teach that Jesus Christ has a brother who is Satan. The doctrinal implications of this alone are astounding and should completely discredit any claims to Christianity by any professing Mormon. The Mormons also teach that Jesus Christ is a created being, that He is NOT self-existing, eternal, Alpha and Omega. Yet in John we read that Jesus Christ created ALL things unto Himself.

So The Mormons believe in a profoundly different Jesus. To say that any old Jesus will do is akin to saying that Jesus the gardener will save your soul, or that the Muslim Allah is just another name for Jehovah.

It is very interesting that you would bring up "definitions" for a key feature of LDS soteriology is that Man is expected to do as much as he can for his own works based salvation, and Jesus will cover the rest. This is a fundamental blasphemy which completely rejects the orthodox doctrine of Redemption. The Mormons then redefine "Redemption" to suit their heresy. Mormons also redefine "God" to not almighty Creator God of all the Universe, but "god" as in some level of existence that created man can attain. The "Jesus" the LDS claim to worship is simply one of these little 'g' "gods". That is a clear violation of the Ten Commandments for the LDS have created, in their doctrines, idols of worship and have hijacked the name "Jesus" so they can suck others into that demonic vortex.

There are plenty of websites devoted to comparing and contrasting the claims of the LDS with orthodox Christianity, often written by those who once were deeply emerged in their teachings yet by God's grace escaped that cult. Either you haven't bothered to examine them which means you speak in ignorance, or have decided that definitions don't matter, which is hypocritical, or you are deliberately trying to deceive which is something straight from Hell.

So which is it, and why should we care about your disdain for Truth?

44 posted on 08/17/2010 6:45:25 AM PDT by The Theophilus
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To: ansel12; Talisker

Polytheists are not Christians

****

Father, Son, and Holy Ghost = Polytheists in anse112 mind

It seems the Only begotten Son testifies often of His Father in Heaven and prays to Him and also of the Holy Ghost

John 14: 2, 12, 28, 31
2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
• • •
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
• • •
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
• • •
31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

John 14:

1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

15 ¶ If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

John 15: 16
16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

John 20: 17
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.


45 posted on 08/17/2010 7:30:00 AM PDT by restornu
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To: JRandomFreeper; ansel12

ansel12 forgets about those days of praying to St Christopher, or Anothny etc.


46 posted on 08/17/2010 7:33:22 AM PDT by restornu
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To: ansel12

Yawn Oh snootie patootie


47 posted on 08/17/2010 7:37:35 AM PDT by restornu
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To: freethinker_for_freedom

NO, the 1st Amendment means you can pray The Rosary on a sidewalk outside an Abortion Clinic.


48 posted on 08/17/2010 7:42:16 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: The Theophilus

Oh snootie patootie


49 posted on 08/17/2010 7:46:28 AM PDT by restornu
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To: Carry_Okie

What a quirky, irrelevant path to get off on.


50 posted on 08/17/2010 8:04:31 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: restornu

The Pope sees things differently than you. So do all the other Christians.


51 posted on 08/17/2010 8:10:45 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: American Dream 246

Actually, the speaker is the one who walked up to the podium and pretended to sneeze, invoking a round of “God Bless Yous” from the graduating class.

It was preplanned that way by the students.

It happened on May 20, 2001 at Washington Community High School in (surprise, surprise) Washington, Illinois.

The back story is that the valedictorian, Natasha Appenheimer, and the ACLU had convinced a judge to hand down a temporary injunction barring the inclusion of prayers at the commencement, citing that it violated the nebulous “separation of church and state.”

Cheers


52 posted on 08/17/2010 8:16:47 AM PDT by DoctorBulldog (Here, intolerance... will not be tolerated! - (South Park))
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To: maine yankee
But I do have problems with people who believe theirs is the only true religion. We have lost too many young men and women because some zealot convinced people they and their way were better than others.

That is a red herring, this is about Christians all agreeing about something, they all agree that Mormonism is not a Christian religion. Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholics, Protestants, they have all reached the same conclusion.

Mormonism was created to do what you mention, be superior to all, to literally be Gods, you yourself will be baptized a Mormon after you die.

53 posted on 08/17/2010 8:21:15 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Nextrush

First they came for the Christians.

after you demanded they be silent.


54 posted on 08/17/2010 8:23:11 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
What a quirky, irrelevant path to get off on.

Oh it was entirely relevant, because it showed the hypocrisy of your imposition of subjective standards for "Christianity," about which you quite evidently know a great deal less than you realize, but then, the Roman Church quite evidently prefers it that way.

55 posted on 08/17/2010 8:29:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Government is an apex predator.)
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To: PghBaldy
I think he he is using subterfuge t try to convince others to become Mormons. They are nice people supposedly, but are not honest about their beliefs.

Glenn Beck is the biggest media force that the Mormon cult has ever had to penetrate the mainstream with, with the push to make Mitt Romney the president, this is a heady time for them and their attempts to reimage themselves as mainstream and Christian.

They currently have a massive advertising program reinforcing the media penetration of these Mormon heroes.

56 posted on 08/17/2010 8:31:33 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Carry_Okie
I get the feeling that you don't have a dog in this hunt, unless your anti-Christian posts are your dog, now you are going after the Catholic church by name.

Here, you can go after the Greek Orthodox also.

CULTS IN AMERICA:
"The prevailing doctrine of past and present cults is the gnostic or secret knowledge to attain salvation or perfection that they alone possess. This is evident in early Gnosticism as well as in the nineteenth-century cults such as Mormonism, Christian Science, Jehovah's Witnesses, spiritualism, theosophy and many more. Several of these cults offer "special welfare" services to promote good will and enable them to further their propaganda."

57 posted on 08/17/2010 8:40:05 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

That is a red herring, this is about Christians all agreeing about something, they all agree that Mormonism is not a Christian religion. Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholics, Protestants, they have all reached the same conclusion.

Just because they all agree, doesn’t mean they’re right.


58 posted on 08/17/2010 8:54:38 AM PDT by maine yankee
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To: maine yankee
this is about Christians all agreeing about something, they all agree that Mormonism is not a Christian religion. Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholics, Protestants, they have all reached the same conclusion.

LOL, it sure means something.

Joe Smith's Mormon cult versus 2000 years of Christianity. When diverse Christian scholars are so united on a theological question, then it carries a lot of weight with me, even if it does disagree with the holy book of the Mormon religion that Joe Smith wrote. Do you think that the "Book of Mormon" is the true Holy Book of Christianity?

59 posted on 08/17/2010 9:04:30 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

That is nutty thinking

Beck has never endorsed Romney!


60 posted on 08/17/2010 9:04:49 AM PDT by restornu
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