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First Amendment Watch: Beck Forbidden from Prayer at Kennedy Center
bigjournalism.com ^ | 08/17/10 | Michael Walsh

Posted on 08/16/2010 10:58:09 PM PDT by American Dream 246




Technically speaking, the Kennedy Center is not Congress, but the building — a monument to the first Roman Catholic president — is federally supported.

Luckily, this story has a happy ending. But how many ordinary Americans have a microphone or a TV show with which to make bureaucratic enormities like this public?

Behold the wages, not of sin, but of the evil known as “political correctness” –

VIDEO GLENN BECK

Lest we forget, the Kennedy Center’s forerunner as Washington’s premiere concert hall, Constitution Hall, run by the Daughters of the American Revolution, once tried to ban contralto Marian Anderson for the simple crime of being black. Here she is in action, singing the “Ave Maria” just to make the atheists and Schubert-haters crazy:

VIDEO

Eternal vigilance, indeed.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anderson; beck; christanism; christianity; dar; glennbeck; islam; lds; mariananderson; mormon; muslims; obama; palin; religion
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To: Arizona Carolyn
I am not a Mormon, no plans to become a Mormon, but some of the nicest, kindest, most generous and family-loving people I know are Mormon and that is more than I can say for a lot of people who call themselves other religions.

So are Amway® salesmen; but THEY are not trying to pass themselves off as CHRISTIAN.

141 posted on 08/17/2010 7:40:36 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: Arizona Carolyn
I am not a Mormon, no plans to become a Mormon, but some of the nicest, kindest, most generous and family-loving people I know are Mormon and that is more than I can say for a lot of people who call themselves other religions.

So are Amway® salesmen; but THEY are not trying to pass themselves off as CHRISTIAN.

142 posted on 08/17/2010 7:40:45 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: BlueMoose
MEGO!!!!

Because YOU posted a BIG block of text with NO formatting!

Whadya expect? High Five for effort?

143 posted on 08/17/2010 7:43:15 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: restornu
 
Sorry you missunderstood blessing are not always great ones sometimes it is a wake up call!
 


 
"Joseph; I advise you not to go to that jail."
 
"Darn gnats!!"
 
 
"Joseph; I'm telling you to not to go to that jail."
 
"Flies are BAD today!!"
 
 
"Joseph; It ain't gonna be pretty if you ignore me and go to that jail!"
 
"Crummy mosquitos are EVERYWHERE!!!"
 
 
"Joseph!  Do NOT go to that jail!"
 
"And those bedbugs really savaged me last night, too!"
 
 
"JOSEPH!!  Wake up boy!   Do Not Go To That JAIL!!!"
 
"All right Sheriff - here I am, so give me a nice room while my Lawyer, my Advocate, my Comforter presents the LAW to the Judge and I am VINDICATED!!!"
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

144 posted on 08/17/2010 7:46:11 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: caww

At LEAST the Muslims are honorable enough NOT to try and pass themselves off as CHRISTIAN!!


145 posted on 08/17/2010 7:47:32 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: caww

I been awake sence the 80’s many things Beck speaks of today I learn in the 1980’s.LDS are not your enemy

Come listen to a prophet speak!

1of2 Globalist Bankers Tactic to Stifle Freedom and Patriot Movements in America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTd-CnCMK-8&feature=related

Ezra Taft Benson’s Speech on Socialism - 1965
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9r8HuAxVvk&feature=related

Ezra Taft Benson The Book of Mormon Warns America PART1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ07MFmwAx0&feature=related


146 posted on 08/17/2010 7:55:21 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Elsie

In the end, the only thing that is going to matter is how well a person lived his life and not who’s religion is best, it is about how a person chooses to live his life and treat and speak about others that matters in the end and denigrating someone because you don’t believe in their religion is not going to give you points on the other side.


147 posted on 08/17/2010 7:59:55 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Elsie

A true Christian doesn’t put down other people because they don’t believe in their religion.......


148 posted on 08/17/2010 8:06:12 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: CynicalBear
Have you seen anything that Beck has said that disagrees with the Bible?

On more than a dozen occasions, GB on his radio program keeps going back to the story of where the scene is set in this Universe's God's heaven, there sits the Father, Jesus and Jesus' sibling Satan. They are discussing the hypothetical fall of Adam and "The Father" tests each of His sons as to how they propose to deal with it. Satan's plan is to "force a change upon them and save them that way". Jesus allegedly proposes what is known in theological circles as the Pelagian Heresy.

The context of these outbursts of Glenn has to do with the Mormon proposition that man's salvation is contingent on making "free will choices" in all aspects of his life, and that in the end we will be judged on the quality of our choices.

There is absolutely nothing about that Mormon teaching that in any way aligns with orthodox Christianity which has been a very careful and deliberate understanding of God's Word. Througout the Bible, there are "God's Chosen", first God chose Israel as bearers of the Law. Through our failure to keep the Law we realize our need for a Savior. Jesus Christ, able to keep the Law, imputed His righteousness on to the Elect, which God the Father has chosen for His Son from eternity past.

Mormonism says that Lucifer would do the choosing and would force them. They claim that Jesus will do nothing and let man fail, even if none would come to Christ. Both of these propositions are ludicrous and have zero basis in Scripture. From a simple reading of the Gospel of John we quickly discover that the Father Elects some to eternal life. In Romans we read that these Chosen of God are Vessels of Mercy and that others are fashioned as vessels of Wrath, otherwise known as the "reprobate". Mormonism denies the fundamental doctrines: concepts of reprobation, election, foreknowledge, predestination, santification and a host of others such as "atonement" which is repackaged to mean something very much different from what is taught in Scriptures. The Bible also strongly teaches that all natural men hate God and love their sin so much that they would never seek after God. Clearly Mormons reject the doctrine of Biblical Total Depravity.

I find these rants of Glenn so irritating in that it seems that Glenn either doesn't care or he is ignorant of the fact that he is calling the core Biblical Doctrines of Grace "Satanic". What is even more telling, is during his radio show on 8/17, he admitted to an "expensive study" of his program to see, among other things, what turned people off - its the Mormonism, yet he mischaracterized it and said it was, in the broad sense, "talking about Jesus". Stu had to correct him for being wildly off from what the study results actual said. Its the Mormonism that repels people - just like it hurts Romney's presidential ambitions.

I occasionally look at the Insider Extreme "Feed", which I can tell to everyone here, is an utter waste of time in that 100% of the comments are made by mouth breathing morons whose grade school girls probably twitter to each other more substantive statements. What seems to be a common theme among those messages that are permited to be viewed, is that nearly all people who claim to be Christians are profoundly biblically illiterate and are only capable of expressing their religion in mindless slogans [example]:

"If you respect God, then He will respect you"

What in Hell does that mean? WHat it means to me is that Glenn, who most certainly believes that he is to fulfill the White Horse Prophecy, has PT Barnum's target audience willing to lap up any LDS doctrine he cares to feed them.

149 posted on 08/17/2010 8:44:58 PM PDT by The Theophilus
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To: restornu
LDS are not your enemy

No they aren't MY enemy, just as you say...but they are yours Resty. Though I understand your invitation to hear this man speak...I must decline as Mormonism has nothing to offer other than the continual series of their false and mis-leading beliefs.

150 posted on 08/17/2010 8:49:33 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

You should be ashame of your self because this is kind of talk is not of the Lord!


151 posted on 08/17/2010 9:00:48 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu

There is no reason to have any shame when one can identify falshood Resty...the Lord gives us discernment to do just that...and his written word to test and determine that which is not according to the authority of that word. If teachings go against the clear written word of God then as Christians we are obligated before Him to expose those teachings for what they are.

This is why so many here use Gods word to prove what truth is and that which is falshood or twisted use of scriptures. You know where those who care about you stand...in the Christ of the scriptures...and it is He who seeks to bring you out of Mormonism. Just as with His Salvation people resist His prodding, so too with those He attempts to steer them away from that which is harmful to them.


152 posted on 08/17/2010 9:57:16 PM PDT by caww
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To: Elsie; restornu; The Theophilus

Ramma damma ding dong. ;o)


153 posted on 08/17/2010 11:49:27 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: Elsie

“...he DOES have that Catholic background.”

THAT’s what has kicked in!

I know he’s a Mormon, but he speaks almost as an evangelical Christian speaks.

That is what is so confusing. I’ve heard many Mormons speaking of their being Christians, but this is different. He truly understands what being a Christian means.*

However, I can understand his loyalty to the Mormons because he believes they are responsible for his sobriety.

*He doesn’t need “definitions.” lol


154 posted on 08/17/2010 11:55:44 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: Ripliancum

I know what a Christian is...


155 posted on 08/18/2010 12:02:04 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: Domandred

As I said in an earlier post...I know what a Christian is.


156 posted on 08/18/2010 12:03:31 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: ansel12

The Serenity Prayer

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference.

Years ago when I used to shoot my mouth off too much, a friend urged me to consider Alcoholics Anonymous.

I think he was on the right track.

That’s a program that Glenn Beck joined up with describing himself as an addict who was neither sane nor sober.

I hope you are sane and sober, but religious people who have strong opinions often remind me of raging addicts with their emotions and anger.

That is my personal experience.


157 posted on 08/18/2010 1:10:31 AM PDT by Nextrush (Slocialist Republicans and Socialist Democrats need to go)
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To: restornu
I been awake sence the 80’s many things Beck speaks of today I learn in the 1980’s.LDS are not your enemy
 


FREE KITTENS

A pretty little girl named Suzy was standing on the sidewalk in front of her home in Salt Lake City. Next to her was a basket containing a number of tiny creatures; in her hand was a sign announcing FREE KITTENS.

Suddenly a line of big black cars pulled up beside her. Out of the lead car stepped a tall, grinning man.

"Hi there little girl, I'm President Thomas Monson. What do you have in the basket?" he asked.

"Kittens," little Suzy said.

"How old are they?" asked Monson.

Suzy replied, "They're so young, their eyes aren't even open yet."

"And what kind of kittens are they?"

"Mormons," answered Suzy with a smile.

Thompson was delighted. As soon as he returned to his car, he called his PR chief and told him about the little girl and the kittens.

Recognizing the perfect photo op, the two men agreed that the president should return the next day; and in front of the assembled media, have the girl talk about her discerning kittens.

 

 

 

 

So the next day, Suzy was again standing on the sidewalk with her basket of "FREE KITTENS," when another motorcade pulled up, this time followed by vans from Deseret News, The Ensign magazine and KSL.

Cameras and audio equipment were quickly set up, then Thompson got out of his limo and walked over to little Suzy.

"Hello, again," he said, "I'd love it if you would tell all my friends out there what kind of kittens you're giving away."

"Yes sir," Suzy said. "They're Christians."

Taken by surprise, the Living Prophet® stammered, "But... but... yesterday, you told me they were MORMONS."

Little Suzy smiled and said, "I know. But today, they have their eyes open"


158 posted on 08/18/2010 3:23:00 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Arizona Carolyn
 
In the end, the only thing that is going to matter is how well a person lived his life and not who’s religion is best, it is about how a person chooses to live his life and treat and speak about others that matters in the end and denigrating someone because you don’t believe in their religion is not going to give you points on the other side.
 
It hasn't seemed to slow down the MORMONs a bit!
 


http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”
 
 
And, continuing thru the years, the high ranking leaders of that Organization have done the same!
 
Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses, 18:172).
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses, 10:127).
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p.196).
 

 
Only just lately have the MORMONs seem to WANT be called Christians now.
 
Can't find ANYTHING in their doctrine that has changed to warrent this attitude shift; however.

159 posted on 08/18/2010 3:25:00 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Arizona Carolyn
 
In the end, the only thing that is going to matter is how well a person lived his life and not who’s religion is best, it is about how a person chooses to live his life and treat and speak about others that matters in the end...
 
This KUMBAYA stuff sounds SO modern and tolerant; but the GOD of CHRISTIANITY seems to have just a little bit different take on it.

 
 
John 3:14-18

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

 

 

John 6:28-29

28. Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
29. Jesus answered,
"The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."

 
 

160 posted on 08/18/2010 3:31:04 AM PDT by Elsie
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